What is Wasser boxer and Oxyboxer?

green65bug · Post by **green65bug** » Wed May 28, 2003 1:24 pm

Im sure it's like 1980's water cooled bus engine words? But whats the diference between the two? Im looking at all my options for big reliable daily driven horsepower. If you go to, title IS THIS POSSIBLE, IN THE TYPE 1 FORUM I have said everthing that I want my future motor to do. I'm sure these Q's have been asked 100 times so Im sorry about that. Would I have to turn my 65 bug into water cooled or just use some water cooled parts on an aircooled motor or what? What would be some advantags to Wasser boxer, Oxyboxer route? So fare the best way for me seems to be Type 4. But remember I dont know anything about this so this might could be the way to go?! Who ever aswers these Q's could you read my IS THIS POSSIBLE page first so you know everything Iwant out of my engine? Thank guy's!

ANT · Post by **ANT** » Wed May 28, 2003 2:24 pm

Wasser=Water
Oxy=Air
Boxer=Flat (opposed cylinders) engine

Wasserboxer=Watercooled engine
Oxyboxer=Aircooled engine

Actually, the Oxyboxer is a Wasserboxer that's been converted to run without liquid cooling. Here's a killer site all about this:

http://www.gearheads.dk/oxyboxer.htm

-ANT (lotsa hot air here!)

green65bug · Post by **green65bug** » Thu May 29, 2003 4:33 am

You got to admit if you've never heard of it it sounds kind of wierd. Im going to check it out! Thanks again!

VWGirl · Post by **VWGirl** » Thu May 29, 2003 6:18 am

Since the wasserboxer came after the oxyboxer wouldnt it be that it (wasserboxer) is an air cooled (oxyboxer)engine converted to cool with water?

ANT · Post by **ANT** » Thu May 29, 2003 11:25 am

VWGirl wrote:Since the wasserboxer came after the oxyboxer wouldnt it be that it (wasserboxer) is an air cooled (oxyboxer)engine converted to cool with water?

Nein! Did you even look at the site I posted previously? Here's a quote from it:
"We are converting wasserboxer WBX engine cases to aircooled"
-ANT

VWGirl · Post by **VWGirl** » Fri May 30, 2003 11:16 am

Maybe YOU should read the link you posted as the second line reads "The engine is a type 1 configuration engine, converted to water cooling."

so you are saying the "oxyboxer" is a "wasserboxer" (air cooled engine converted to watercooled) converted back to aircooled? How confusing...

jonas_linder · Post by **jonas_linder** » Fri May 30, 2003 12:29 pm

VWGirl wrote:Maybe YOU should read the link you posted as the second line reads "The engine is a type 1 configuration engine, converted to water cooling."

so you are saying the "oxyboxer" is a "wasserboxer" (air cooled engine converted to watercooled) converted back to aircooled? How confusing...

No, first came the type 1, then then type 4, then the wasserboxer.

The wasserboxer is developed out of the type1.

No there is people wanting more and more so they use the wasserboxercase to a aircooled engine with type1 heads for example, this is a oxyboxer.

Badbugtwo · Post by **Badbugtwo** » Fri May 30, 2003 3:24 pm

jonas_linder wrote: ... there is people wanting more and more so they use the wasserboxercase to a aircooled engine with type1 heads for example, this is a oxyboxer.

Point in case, I have one of the quickest and fastest waterboxer to air cased race cars.

http://www.badbug.com

ANT · Post by **ANT** » Fri May 30, 2003 3:35 pm

I need a drink. Where'd I leave the Sterno?
-ANT

green65bug · Post by **green65bug** » Fri May 30, 2003 5:48 pm

This ShopTalkForums is not only knowledgable but also entertaining!

MattKab · Post by **MattKab** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:45 am

The engine in our clubs low-budget drag Bug is (was) a DG prefixed Wasserboxer.

It has had the water jackets around the cylinders machined back to resemble a Type 1. It is drilled/tapped to take Type1 head studs and uses aircooled 1914cc barrels. The Wasser' heads have had the water ports nearest the pistons welded-up and each head is cooled by its own radiator, both in the rear window area.

A type 1 dog-house shroud is used to cool the cylinders and we have a T1 oilcooler inverted in the stock location. 48DRLA's and a monster stainless header/stinger. We will be happy with mid 14's.

Could this be the first true WOXYBOXER

Matt

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:50 pm

I have the motor disassembled and I have the kooblekar running and driving on a stock 1600. advantages, noise reduction, more hp, real heat,
down side, radiator?, cost to build motor, reducing value of KOOBLE
WWW.KOOBLEKAR.COM :

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What is Wasser boxer and Oxyboxer?

What is Wasser boxer and Oxyboxer?

Thanks

53

So what would our engine be?

how about a 1.9 wasserboxer into a kooblekar?