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need info on ratio rocker arms
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:01 pm
by jkt
Jake, I'm finally ready to reorder the Pauter ratio rockers to replace the ones that FedEx lost (BTW they never paid the claim ). Does Pauter still make these? And if they do, what was the specs on them. I seem to remember 1.4:1; but I could be wrong. Thanks for your help, JT
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:28 pm
by tuna
You might contact Pauter directly to find out that information.
http://www.pauter.com/contact_us.htm
Tuna
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:32 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
They still make them...
? for Jake
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:14 pm
by jkt
Jake, it's been a while since I've looked at this forum. I didn't know that you had a store now. I seem to remember that you had dropped that idea a while back. Anyway, I see that you have 1.48:1 ratio rockers for sale. Are these similar to the ones that you have in your shop bus? If so, have you a set in stock? I would rather purchase a set from you than have to wait for Pauter to make some up. I would really like to get my bus on the road; but high head temps really limit that. thanks again for your time, JT
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:48 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
John,
I do ofer the Pauters, but do not have any in stock.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:54 pm
by Ephry73
since I just came acrossed this, ar the billet ones that AC.net sales Pauter'? has anyone tried them?
Ephry
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:02 pm
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
Yes those are Pauter's as well...
There are only a few cams that per the math are compatible with them due to ramp rates and compatibility.
Out of 44 cam grinds I only have 6 that are considered compatible with the ratio rockers.
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:24 pm
by Wally
Hmm, I still love the benifits of the Pauters as well, but were/are concerned about the non-self oiling of those rockers you have mentioned in the past.
Have you modified the oiling capabilities of the ones you sell ?
Thanks,
Walter
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:01 am
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
No, they are not modified. There is really no way to "modify" them...
If I use them on a street engine I typically install oilers in the valve covers to lube the guides...
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:30 am
by Ephry73
How can that be done? do you sale covers with that mod? I am asking because l was looking at those rockers for the 2071 engine.
Ephry
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:34 am
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
The set up runs 600 bucks with all the braided hoses installed into the covers and with jettable orfices that can change the oil volume to the amount desired.
It is a lot of work and takes a lot of braided hose and fittings- It's more hassle than it's worth unless you have a demanding application.
The original poster on this thread is one of very few that can benefit from the ratio rockers-BTW.
The stock rocker is unbeatable in 99% of street applications.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:06 am
by Ephry73
Point taken.
E
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:35 am
by Wally
A while ago Jake posted some very (and I mean VERY) nice pictures of such an install on one of his engines.
I believe it was in the speed and drag racing section...
Pity it till takes that much work; the Pauter rockers are a really nice design and would be superior in most cases if the cam is right for it.
I am really curieus how much they will benefit the 3.0 liter. That engine might even benefit from a larger ratio than 1.48
When will you install them on that one Jake?
Thanks,
Walter
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:44 am
by MASSIVE TYPE IV
Yeah, the pics are somewhere on the Speed and Drag Race forum...
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:49 am
by A_67vdub
I always wondered if you could cut a little groove in the rocker in the same manner that you cut the groove in a rod to help oil get to the back of the piston. Only the groove in the rocker would be facing the valve guide. I would think you would need to run a little more clearance between the rocker and shaft to let the oil flow through it, but then run a tighter side clearance to force the oil through the groove. I don't know how much pressure it would take to get all the way up to the guide, though.
Ever tried that?
Steve