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Im in need of a new motor. I dont know if I want to go with a package deal that bernie bergman sells or build a larger motor myself. It would be my first motor rebuild .

what about a turbo motor setup?

any suggestions?

Build one yourself. There are lots of people who can help you with technical questions and provide you with encouragement. Knowing the inner workings of the motor will be useful to you forever.

Keith

thanks for the quick reply.

The only problem I have is getting the case and other components remachined. would this be cost effective to ship acrosss the country from east coast to west coast?

-Leo

believe it or not, the shipping, especially ground frieght is not all that bad. Try shipping from any where in the US to Hawaii. $$$$, thats where I am located but sometimes there are little or no choices. As stated above, no doubt, there is someone where you live that can asist you in buiding your "Dream Motor", just do your "homework" first so that you know what you want the motor to do or you will end up like I did, spending close to 4K on misc. parts and still do not have a motor completed or put together, jus my 2 cents!

Good Luck and Aloha!

JP

I hear the larger 2200 cc motors cant be reliable on a type 1 motor. whats the largest I can go without overheating problems?

Bklyn63,

What engine size have you been driving and what is your budget? If you've been driving a stocker or stocker+ then I would recommend a nice twin carb 1776. This 69mm stroke displacement requires only basic skills after the machining is done. A first time builder should be able to accomplish it on his own with only minimal assistance and a Bentley manual. No case, cam or rod clearancing and you should be able to use stock length p/r's if you use a 1.1 cam and stock rockers. You'd even be able to use the VW heater boxes if you keep the valve sizes stock.

Once you get into the bigger displacement stroker motors you have to be committed, if not financially then at least mentally. Figure on bigger heads, dual twin throat carbs, bigger heaterbox exhaust, perhaps a full flow set up, 1.4 cam and rockers, etc. You'd better have an experienced, knowledable buddy to help you out here if you want to do it yourself, and I recommend you do, just to see what's involved and to see all the little things needed to get it working right.

As for Bernnie Bergman motors.......Well, I'd recommend against them unless you buy additional gaskets, pull the motor down to check it out and then do your own re-assembly. My old 2007 started off as a Bergman hydraulic motor and ended up my own solid lifter motor with help from Berg, FAT and Pauter Machine. The compression as delivered with a 278 cam was 10.3:1 because of heavily flycut heads and I found out later that the persistant lifter clack was because they had failed to install one of the oil pressure gallery plungers in my case. One good point about that motor was that it taught me a lot....... once I started to disect it! My version of it is still running fine though, sold it to my buddy who routinely runs it in the 75-85mph range as a N. Dakota daily driver.

First motor, KISS it, that's my recommendation.

R/

Jim

For machine work send it to www.vw-store.com
They are very nice to work with and do good work.
They are in PA.

I was thinking about doing a 1776 setup first then progressing to a larger motor.

I was even thinking about buying a motor and turbo setup from A.J at lowbugget.com

If I were to go with the 1776 what exactly would I keep.

Machining would be done by gene berg and I would not keep the heater boxes. I was also thinking about a 1.25 rocker setup.

what do you think?

-Leo

How much do you have to spend???

What is your car set up to handle??? Brakes, wheels, suspention....

I love my engine but I think I would go bigger if given the chance.

Bert

I have decided on a 2007 motor. tell me what you guys think.:

1. cb perf supercase full flow oil lube.

2. 90.5 pistons for 82mm stroke

3. engle 125 cam

4.counterweighted 78mm stroker crank with chevy rod journals.

5. scat 4340 conneting rods 5.500" length

6. stock 1.1:1 rockers

7. .150 scat spacers with .060 gaskets

8. 30mm melling oil pump


9. not sure what heads I'll be using yet.

I have several 78 mm welded counterweighted stroker cranks with chevy journals in stock.

Great luck to you.

Keith

trying to decide on a chevy or vw...

not sure yet..

unless your turning really high rpm, like 6500+ alot,,, there is no real need for chevy journals. It's just an un-necesary cost, due to case work, special rods, special crank, bearings,,, yad yada yada,,,,,,just stay VW. Its a whole lot simpler.
I have a 2332 desert race motor with VW journals. We have no need for chevy journal stuff.
Oh ya, do a search about bergman motors,

thanks for the advise..I'll go with a 2332 motor instead super case and forged crank and rods...


not sure about the cam yet..I'll have to see what heads Im using..