mid-engine sub frame

Rmcelroy · Post by **Rmcelroy** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 9:57 am

I'd like to run a mid engine T4 motor/trans in a street car. I though you guys might be a good source for info on a sub frame that would allow me to do just that. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Regie

nicanor · Post by **nicanor** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 1:55 pm

Eric Martin from A&e Auto and Machining makes custom chassis specializing in VW chassis replacements. He makes really nice mid-engine replacement cahssis also and can make it in almost any length, width, etc. He can set it up using mustang 2 suspension or stock VW and engine mounted normally or sideways. Expect about $2500 +/- for bare chassis (no suspension) to $$$$ for full setup including suspension/chassis/tranny already set up. I haven't talked to him in a couple years but he still should be doing this (his side job during cold season on his farm). [email protected] or 785-225-6774 I'll be eventually ordering a mid engine dunebuggy chassis from him when I'm ready (hopefully next year)

Rmcelroy · Post by **Rmcelroy** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 2:15 pm

Yeah GDRBO I think your right I am in DIY land-I don't think I'm ready for this. I'll have to turn to kits cars and see what they might be doing.

Thanks for the help NICANOR I sent him an e-mail earlier and I didn't hear back.

Later

Bob Ingman · Post by **Bob Ingman** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 5:24 pm

Rmcelroy, Just a thought here but this 550 Spyder kit is built on a tubular sub-frame and is mid engined. Jake Raby builds big T-4 engines for these guys.There was a thread recently on t-4 forum that went into it. http://www.thunderranch.com/5501.htm
Good Luck. Bob

[This message has been edited by Bob Ingman (edited 10-07-2001).]

nicanor · Post by **nicanor** » Sun Oct 07, 2001 7:59 pm

Here's the picts that guy sent me:
http://members.linkopp.com/flat4/chassis.jpg

Keep in mind he's a farmer by trade and only does a few chassis per year. Not sure how often he gets on the internet. I talked to him a few times on the phone. Very nice guy and knows how to make chassis and alot of development in his hands. I got picts of a rear engine chassis too if anyone wants me to post them up too.

GDRBO · Post by **GDRBO** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 12:19 am

Regie you are in do-it-yourself country. The only car to use a type 4 in mid-engine configuration is the 914 Porsche and I don't believe they had a sub-frame. None of the front drive sub-frame cars would, in my opinion, be suitable due to location of motor mounts among other concerns. It looks like time to get out the heavy fabrication tools and get after it!

stevestromberg · Post by **stevestromberg** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 12:46 am

Try Red Dawg the make a subframe for the 914. Steve

Rmcelroy · Post by **Rmcelroy** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 11:03 am

Thanks guys-I'll check these leads out.
Regie

nicanor · Post by **nicanor** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 8:27 pm

http://members.linkopp.com/flat4/chassis2.jpg

Another mid engine chassis picts for your likings. Eric Martin made this one too.

GDRBO · Post by **GDRBO** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 9:27 pm

Not that I really mind but why are we dealing with a mid-engine street chassis in the Off-Road forum?

Rmcelroy · Post by **Rmcelroy** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 9:47 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by GDRBO:
Not that I really mind but why are we dealing with a mid-engine street chassis in the Off-Road forum?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only because off road guys seem to have a lot of mid-engine frames, and might have sources. You guys already are in tune with the advantages of the mid engine layout-a configuration I think should apply to the street.
Besides I asked around on some other pages on this forum and got almost zero response-the fact that I found people interested says I asked the right people.

Thanks for your patience all.
Regie

The place you find it is the last place you look.

Rmcelroy · Post by **Rmcelroy** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 9:51 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by nicanor:
 http://members.linkopp.com/flat4/chassis2.jpg

Another mid engine chassis picts for your likings. Eric Martin made this one too.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That looks sharp-I'll try to get him again.
Thanks Nicanor