Type 3 Waterboxer Conversion

PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Tue Sep 18, 2001 8:02 am

I want to put a waterboxer engine in a Squareback but want it to fit below the stock engine cover. Anyone know if this will fit? If so will it bolt up to the stock tranny or will I need a adapter? The big thing is will it fit in the stock engine compartment! The Suby engine won't fit under the lid, so I am not sure if anything else will fit.
Thanks

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Lost in Texas with Bluebonnets and Bluebell Icecream

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Thu Sep 20, 2001 12:53 am

Hi
I received a really nice email from a fellow who has fitted one to a fastback, you can see it here http://www.tangen.nu/volkswagenpage.html
Steve C

fastback · Post by **fastback** » Thu Sep 20, 2001 7:03 am

The WaterBoxer(or WasserBOxer as i call it) Will fit under the original Engine Cover.However i have installed this engine in my -69 Fastback (check out the link above/below)and i wanted as much ground clearance as possible so i had to modify the engine cover a little bit.(the original Exaust also fit's nicer)I had to build it up som places with about 1".The engine fit's straight on your Transmission if you use a Type 4 210 or 215 mm Flywheel.If you use the Original 228 mm Flywheel you have to remove some aluminium inside the Transmission/Clutch housing due to the larger Pressureplate.
You also have to fit an needle bearing to support the main axle from the gear box(this is a MUST even when converting to a regular Type 4 Engine).
And you hve to use a late Gearbox with support for the Release bearing(or add the support mechanism to an old one).
You also need a starter from an automatic Transmission(Type 1 or 3), which is supported in both ends.
If you have late Suspension(IRS -68 an newer) you have to modify rear engine mounts(This modification lets you adjust the engine to fit under the engine cover or not)

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PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Thu Sep 20, 2001 9:44 am

Hey guys thanks for the Info. I have about some time to get it ready to go to the Type 3 Invasaion 2002 in Parma Idaho.. The wife wants ac and heat. Any one else jump in too. Now starts the quest for 2.1 W-boxer engine and electronics...
Jorn I didn't see any air inlets for a radiator? I guess it is in the spare tire well.

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PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Thu Sep 20, 2001 12:53 pm

Ok I see it. Bright refelections from the paint and chrome. Your "English" is better than a lot of us.

. Screen or net would be right I think. I saw a squareback with what looked like the grill opening from a new beetle installed in that location. I never thought about the lovers from a T1, but thought a superbeetle front pan with the holes could be made to work.. If its not too much trouble you could email some pictures too.
Thanks
Richard Green
[email protected]
NOTE: I fixed my email address here. Cant spell my own name.
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Richard
Lost in Texas with Bluebonnets and Bluebell Icecream

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fastback · Post by **fastback** » Thu Sep 20, 2001 11:53 pm

PapaG:
I have cut out a large hole in the front plate under the front bumper and have welded in a louvered "plate" (welded in where the License plate used to be.cut out from a T1 engine lid.take a look at the first picture... You can barely see it....
I have covered the hole with "Netting"??(is this a English word??? I'm from Norway so my enlglish is'nt complete...heheh)

If you're interested in more pictures i can E-mail you some...I have'nt put them on my WEBsite yet.

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liberty · Post by **liberty** » Mon Oct 08, 2001 9:24 pm

would it be easer if you went with carbs on this conversion?
i already have an upright motor in my notch right now. and i have an end less supply of vanagons and parts for them.
i even have a zero mile waterboxer siting here ive been wanting to use. so fitting them under the cover isnt an issue.