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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 6:36 pm
by Marty
I am going through my motor doing my regular maintenance. I did a leakdown and was disapointed. Normally I leak 2% or less all around. I guess all of these trips to Palmdirt have taken their toll. So I am putting fresh rings and barrels on it and thought I would share some of the prep I do as many newbies are on here asking how to make more power etc. How many people actually check their ring gap? Its very important. On 94's the Total Seal seconds need around .013 end gap. They are tight out of the package. I have never seen them perfect right out of the box. This could make a difference if it gouges your cylinder. How about cylinder prep? I give them a finish hone with 320 grit stones (using WD40 as lube) then clean them in race gas and then clean them in hot saopy water (liquid dishsoap) and Comet on a fine scotchbrite type pad. Kind of like more finish honing if you think about it. I then assemble them with a light coating of WD40 inside the barrels and motor oil on the piston skirts. Thats it. My motors have excellent leakdown right from the get go and do not require any sort of break in time (for the rings). Just a few tidbits for today. Now back to work Image)


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Marty Staggs
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 7:06 pm
by Bugmekanic
Marty,
You should do a tech article for either here, or CLF (or both) on how to build and prepare a max effort turbo motor. As popular as supercharging is becoming with the ACVW crowd, I'm sure it would be a big hit!

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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 7:42 pm
by Marty
If they ask me to I will.
Theres no voodoo involved, just a few tricks and special attention to details.

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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 8:38 pm
by petevw
thanks marty,

im putting my motor back together now, and your info is much appreciated.

later,
pete

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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:54 am
by alcast81
Whats the CLF??

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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:46 am
by TxGhia
the cal-look forums? www.cal-look.com

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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:34 am
by Tracy
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marty:
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finish hone with 320 grit stones (using WD40 as lube) then clean them in race gas

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Image OH MY GOSH MARTY! You use gasoline?? That is very bad, you could spontaneously combust or something... your whole neighborhood could blow up. I think a rag with race gas on it has the explosive power of like 5 hydrogen bombs. At least thats what I heard on the CLF Image

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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:54 am
by Marty
You should see what I kill ants and gophers with.

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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:02 am
by Tom Notch
I use a flame thrower, wadda you use? Image

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marty:
<B>You should see what I kill ants and gophers with.
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:07 am
by Sidewalk
I have a part time job disposing of hazardous waste.

I get some good stuff Image

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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:30 am
by Steve Arndt
Acetylene down the hole, blow your whole yard up Image

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tom Notch:
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I use a flame thrower, wadda you use? Image



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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:32 am
by Pillow
>and Comet on a fine scotchbrite type pad<

I think Comet has some sort of bleach or acid in it that may not be great for the steal.

Try Bon Ami which is pure pumice. (This is also what Bob Hoover uses)

... Now what about the step with painting the cylinders flat black? (lots of opinions on this one Image )



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'67 VW Deluxe Westfakia - "Dino" - FS
'79 Porsche 911 SC - "Cochese" - FS

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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:57 am
by Marty
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pillow:
<B>>and Comet on a fine scotchbrite type pad<

I think Comet has some sort of bleach or acid in it that may not be great for the steal.

Try Bon Ami which is pure pumice. (This is also what Bob Hoover uses)

... Now what about the step with painting the cylinders flat black? (lots of opinions on this one Image )

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Use what you want. This was started as info for inexperienced builders not debate. I have been using Comet for 18 years. You obviously have to rinse them well.
My cars haul ass. Nuff said.

As far as paint, I always paint the outsides with high heat flat black. If nothing else, just so they dont rust and look crappy.


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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 8:58 am
by PapaG
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pillow:
<B>>and Comet on a fine scotchbrite type pad<

I think Comet has some sort of bleach or acid in it that may not be great for the steal.

Try Bon Ami which is pure pumice. (This is also what Bob Hoover uses)

... Now what about the step with painting the cylinders flat black? (lots of opinions on this one Image )

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Bon Ami now that is "old school" It's been a long time since I heard some one talk about using that... Nothing wrong with that, just not a TFAF in word...



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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2002 9:32 am
by Pillow
Hey Marty I mean no disrespect for the previous post. I just thought the Bon Ami suggestion might be of some benefit.

As for the flat black paint I am always curious to see who runs paint versus no paint on the cylinders. For what it is worth I use normal paint (not high heat) and it has never pealed off... Kind of makes me wonder how little heat is actually dispersed from the iron cylinders!



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'66 VW Westfalia - "Biscuit"
'67 VW Deluxe Westfakia - "Dino" - FS
'79 Porsche 911 SC - "Cochese" - FS