My sleeper is too hot and can't understand why
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:52 am
I have a kind of a peculiar motor installed on my beetle. It's a stock looking engine, including single port heads, that I had made tuned to be a 2100cc with about 80hp at 4100 RPMs and 165 Nm at 2600 RPMs, but the engine revs up to 5500 RPM.
I had a whish to have a very drivable daily driver with much more performance than stock still retaining stock look (which in Italy is important)
It drives great, but it has a tendency to run hotter than it should on highway although I refrain from going more than 110 kmh (Gene Berg deep stick goes on). When driven on streets where RPMs go down and up it keeps good operating temperature even if I do like to push on the gas pedal!
(It has 69 (my 69) gearbox from a 1200, modified with a 8x31 ring and pinion on '74 car).
What would you suggest to check or do to fix its cooling trouble on highway?
I have two possible causes in mind: 1) too much oil pressure and 2) it is not getting adequate air/fuel mixture with a single carb. For both have already done some testing and hereafter are the details.
Here we go with engine details:
Type 1, 2100cc (94x76 stroke), 7.7:1 CR
built on a modified '73 "D" engine case, bearings are standard crankshaft, +0.50 case bore and 22mm stock thrust, Silverline
Dog house shroud, 26mm CSP OIL pump with full flow and pressure valve, standard aluminum oil radiator (more on oil pressure hereafter)
modified original heads (form 1600), single port, 32x35.5 stock valve size
Web Cam Split Duration Camshaft 218/119 with 1.1Rockers
1 Solex 34 pic3, main jet at the moment is 140
123Ignition with vacuum advance mapped as a Bosch 0 231 170 034
38mm J tubes and Vintage Speed exhaust
As far as carburation is concerned short tests on CO have suggested that the car is not lean ... it smells a bit of HC on cold days and also has a tendency to back fire when gas is lifted during hard driving (running second gear up to 5000 rpms, full gas) countryside roads.
As far as oil pressure is concerned, I am mentioning it since I spent some time considering it part of the overheating problem.
I run 5w40 oil and live in northern Italy, and run a few tests on warm days (about 20°C outer temperature). At cold start pressure is at 65/70 PSI (4.8/5 bar on 0 to 5 gauge). On countryside road oil stays at 70\80°C, while pressure is fairly high between 50 to 60 PSI (3.4 and 4.1 bar). On highway at 120 km/h, after about 10 minutes oil reaches 107°, while pressure is still 4 bar (at approximately 3500 RPM) which drops to 1.4 bar at idle as I stop. The engine doesn't burn oil at all and I have already replaced a 32mm oil pump with a 26mm CSP oil pump to reduce pressure to the recommended 10PSI each 1000RPM. Unfortunately oil pressure has not dropped as I whished after changing the oil pump and I ma considering thinner oil, perhaps 5w20...
Finally I have also checked forcing the bypass so oil goes into the radiator all the time, but this hasn't helped.
Many, many thanks for your advice and help on this!
Steve
I had a whish to have a very drivable daily driver with much more performance than stock still retaining stock look (which in Italy is important)
It drives great, but it has a tendency to run hotter than it should on highway although I refrain from going more than 110 kmh (Gene Berg deep stick goes on). When driven on streets where RPMs go down and up it keeps good operating temperature even if I do like to push on the gas pedal!
(It has 69 (my 69) gearbox from a 1200, modified with a 8x31 ring and pinion on '74 car).
What would you suggest to check or do to fix its cooling trouble on highway?
I have two possible causes in mind: 1) too much oil pressure and 2) it is not getting adequate air/fuel mixture with a single carb. For both have already done some testing and hereafter are the details.
Here we go with engine details:
Type 1, 2100cc (94x76 stroke), 7.7:1 CR
built on a modified '73 "D" engine case, bearings are standard crankshaft, +0.50 case bore and 22mm stock thrust, Silverline
Dog house shroud, 26mm CSP OIL pump with full flow and pressure valve, standard aluminum oil radiator (more on oil pressure hereafter)
modified original heads (form 1600), single port, 32x35.5 stock valve size
Web Cam Split Duration Camshaft 218/119 with 1.1Rockers
1 Solex 34 pic3, main jet at the moment is 140
123Ignition with vacuum advance mapped as a Bosch 0 231 170 034
38mm J tubes and Vintage Speed exhaust
As far as carburation is concerned short tests on CO have suggested that the car is not lean ... it smells a bit of HC on cold days and also has a tendency to back fire when gas is lifted during hard driving (running second gear up to 5000 rpms, full gas) countryside roads.
As far as oil pressure is concerned, I am mentioning it since I spent some time considering it part of the overheating problem.
I run 5w40 oil and live in northern Italy, and run a few tests on warm days (about 20°C outer temperature). At cold start pressure is at 65/70 PSI (4.8/5 bar on 0 to 5 gauge). On countryside road oil stays at 70\80°C, while pressure is fairly high between 50 to 60 PSI (3.4 and 4.1 bar). On highway at 120 km/h, after about 10 minutes oil reaches 107°, while pressure is still 4 bar (at approximately 3500 RPM) which drops to 1.4 bar at idle as I stop. The engine doesn't burn oil at all and I have already replaced a 32mm oil pump with a 26mm CSP oil pump to reduce pressure to the recommended 10PSI each 1000RPM. Unfortunately oil pressure has not dropped as I whished after changing the oil pump and I ma considering thinner oil, perhaps 5w20...
Finally I have also checked forcing the bypass so oil goes into the radiator all the time, but this hasn't helped.
Many, many thanks for your advice and help on this!
Steve