Electric off-road vehicles
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Electric off-road vehicles
Doc, Leather: As I have said before but I don't normally talk about either politics or religion but after listing to a Ford ad (and maybe a GM discussion in the news) and hearing some other things I wonder if this might be something open for discussion.
After some research I found out that Telsa has several electric powered vehicles one of which supposedly has a charge range of 620 miles (it is expensive) with a full charge of 32 hours or a "rapid" charge of 44 minutes.
VW has a rig with a 336 mile range with a 12 hour 15 minute charge or a "fast charge" of 34 minutes.
Ford now has an electric Mustang.
From other things I have been reading about that gas rigs will (might) be of out of things by say the mid-2030's. I don't know if this is true but running off-road might be limited also.
I do remember seeing some buggies and sand rails that are running electrically.
I wonder if this is a subject that should have a site for discussions (in the future) on this subject.
Lee
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After some research I found out that Telsa has several electric powered vehicles one of which supposedly has a charge range of 620 miles (it is expensive) with a full charge of 32 hours or a "rapid" charge of 44 minutes.
VW has a rig with a 336 mile range with a 12 hour 15 minute charge or a "fast charge" of 34 minutes.
Ford now has an electric Mustang.
From other things I have been reading about that gas rigs will (might) be of out of things by say the mid-2030's. I don't know if this is true but running off-road might be limited also.
I do remember seeing some buggies and sand rails that are running electrically.
I wonder if this is a subject that should have a site for discussions (in the future) on this subject.
Lee
https://www.maxim.com/rides/volkswagen-id-buggy-2019-8
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Will be interesting to see where this goes Will performance be traded for run time? Keeping up
With Busk, Joe and CWB on the Mojave road would be interesting.
With Busk, Joe and CWB on the Mojave road would be interesting.
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They are already running electric vehicles in Glamis, and this truck is fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVXhkFypkX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVXhkFypkX4
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There used to be a drag racing show on TV but it went away. There was a white truck that was electric powered and he was in the either the low 10's or under that as i remember.
From what I am hearing and reading about... we might be in the electric power exclusively before too long (I probably wouldn't live that long but it is something that folks might want to look at. FI and "puffing" and engine might be a thing of the past.
Lee
From what I am hearing and reading about... we might be in the electric power exclusively before too long (I probably wouldn't live that long but it is something that folks might want to look at. FI and "puffing" and engine might be a thing of the past.
Lee
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Fast but how many runs. Has some torque for surebaja5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:32 pm They are already running electric vehicles in Glamis, and this truck is fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVXhkFypkX4
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There was more on Electric vehicles on the news today. It's going to be an interesting time in the future.
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I and not an environ mentalistic person but the discussions on why the electric motors will be the center of things has gotten me interested in some of the things I am hearing and reading so... the question was how high will the seas rise if both the Artic and Antarctic ice flows melt.
One search said: "The main ice covered landmass is Antarctica at the South Pole, with about 90 percent of the world's ice (and 70 percent of its fresh water). Antarctica is covered with ice an average of 2,133 meters (7,000 feet) thick. If all of the Antarctic ice melted, sea levels around the world would rise about 61 meters (200 feet)."
Another opinion in the search said: "There is still some uncertainty about the full volume of glaciers and ice caps on Earth, but if all of them were to melt, global sea level would rise approximately 70 meters (approximately 230 feet), flooding every coastal city on the planet."
There were many other opinions but since I don't know metrics that well the metric dimensions themselves do very per opinion.
Wil the land mass of "Pangea" arise again. (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/incred ... n-borders/)
If this is really true then where we ride quite a bit of it will be underwater and a lot of cities in the world will be in the same condition. Not sure if this will happen but it is interesting.
One search said: "The main ice covered landmass is Antarctica at the South Pole, with about 90 percent of the world's ice (and 70 percent of its fresh water). Antarctica is covered with ice an average of 2,133 meters (7,000 feet) thick. If all of the Antarctic ice melted, sea levels around the world would rise about 61 meters (200 feet)."
Another opinion in the search said: "There is still some uncertainty about the full volume of glaciers and ice caps on Earth, but if all of them were to melt, global sea level would rise approximately 70 meters (approximately 230 feet), flooding every coastal city on the planet."
There were many other opinions but since I don't know metrics that well the metric dimensions themselves do very per opinion.
Wil the land mass of "Pangea" arise again. (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/incred ... n-borders/)
If this is really true then where we ride quite a bit of it will be underwater and a lot of cities in the world will be in the same condition. Not sure if this will happen but it is interesting.
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Next years Dakar will have some electric racers, I think it's Audi.
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The talk about electric race cars brings up an interesting question... normally you let off on the loud pedal and/or down shift therefore allowing compression to slow you down for a turn. With electric motors do you switch it to run in the opposite direction ?bajaherbie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:43 pm Next years Dakar will have some electric racers, I think it's Audi.
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Sounds like regenerative braking.
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... or something like that. Things are always changing so I guess it is just going to be one of those million changes as the earth spins, tips and grows older.
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Something I noticed from the video posted by Denny, electric vehicles are silent and in an area where loud exhausts are the norm that could prove dangerous. The Pike's Peak Hillclimb mandates that electric vehicles run a siren. Watch video from a couple of years ago when Volkswagen set the overall record time for a run up the mountain in their electric racer. I recently watched a feature on this year's race to the clouds and a Tesla team had failed to notice the siren rule. They quickly came up with a clever work around - they zipped tied the horn button down.
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It also reminds me of something I saw about a month ago. I was out on the desert helping my buddy at a D38 motorcycle race. Bikes were cruising back and forth on the pit lane. Four strokes, two strokes, motorcycles, and quads. Then a guy rode silently by. He was on an electric dirt bike! It looked like a dual sport and not some electrified bicycle. I know there is a motorcycle company called a Zero, but I don't see anything in their inventory that looked like this. It just took me by surprise. He was not there to race . Just cruising around.
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The big problem I see with the off-road scene and electric vehicles is charging. I believe the range of modern electric motorcycles is around 60 miles. Then you get to come back and charge it back up with your noisy generator for a bunch of hours. Kind of defeats the purpose.
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Yes, the technology is going to have to improve, especially for the off road scene. Tesla, at one time, was trying a special "refueling station" where the Tesla S owner would drive in and his entire battery pack was removed and replaced with a fully charged unit. It was said it could be done in less time than it took to fuel a gas engined vehicle. There was even a taxi company toying with the idea of an all electric fleet where they RandR the battery instead of just charging the entire vehicle. Electric Lawnmowers have removable batteries. It won't be long until there are electric motorcycles with the same capability.baja5 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:12 am The big problem I see with the off-road scene and electric vehicles is charging. I believe the range of modern electric motorcycles is around 60 miles. Then you get to come back and charge it back up with your noisy generator for a bunch of hours. Kind of defeats the purpose.