Some thoughts on garage tools

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Some thoughts on garage tools

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Fuser, you kind of brought up an interesting question on how much I would use a particular tool http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 8&t=133795. After thinking about it, the tools I use most (besides hand tools) are:

1) Compressor w/pneumatic tools (including my 4 ½ electric grinder. My larger 8” grinder is not often used anymore since I got the smaller grinder, that and the larger one is so heavy). I have almost enough air hose to go to the street, one side of the yard or to the rear of the yard but not to both sides,

2) MIG Welder. I also have an ARC welder that I never use and an Oxyacetylene setup that is infrequently used or needed but when it is…,

3) 8” drill press on a homemade stand sized to fit me. It would be nice to have a larger drill press but then it would not be something I could pick up and move to where I want/need it. It also might not be tall enough for me to work with it well. I never have gotten to add the lower stretchers on the legs which I should do someday,


4) Blast cabinet: I am using glass bead media in it. It has been worked hard since I got it. One of my better investments,

5) 6” bench grinder mounted on a heavy stand. I have a wheel on one side and a wire wheel on the other side for de-burring (use a shield to cover your eyes and face),

6) Large vacuum cleaner. It is hooked up to the blast cabinet to remove dust when cleaning things but it is also used every time I work in the garage; at the end of the day I sweep up and use the vacuum to pick up the sweepings. I also use it to clean up chips every time I use my lathe/milling machine.

7) Horizontal/vertical band saw. Good for light work but frustrating at times. It will cut tube and flat stock when in a horizontal mount as long is the flat stock isn’t too wide. It also has an ersatz table that will work but it is frustrating at times. The throat is less than 7” deep which limits you a lot. It uses 64 ½ in blades and using the conventional blades it will spit the teeth of quite quickly. The solution is to pay a bit more and get bi-metal blades. It also has a habit if shooting the blade off the drive wheels at the most inopportune times. Very maddening to say the least.


There are options to these small band saws that can be made: http://www.mini-lathe.com/Bandsaw/Bandsaw.htm#bandsaw, http://www.homemetalshopclub.org/projec ... stand.html,

8) Light-weight 4” X 36”belt sander (it’s good for putting heat in a part. Actually it does work OK as long as the material is not too heavy [thick]. I need to get a green belt for it). You can see it in the picture I posted but now it sits on its own stand/table. Great for de-burring leveling supposed straight cuts,

9) Parts washer (I have yet to make a stand for this one but my other one does have a stand for it). I have one of the small sized ones like HF sells. Small but compact and with the exception of large parts (and that can often be worked around) it is very handy to have sitting around. Like so many tools, it sits around doing nothing but taking up space but when you use it, it is usually in a burst of activity. I also use it to pre-clean parts before I put them in the blast cabinet which is a necessity to keep the media clean and not jam up the nozzle,

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10) Lathe/milling machine. I have used it more to make tools and jigs than I have to make parts for any of my toys. It was my graduation (retirement) present to myself but it sits idle an awful lot and takes up space. I think I spend more time oiling it to eliminate rusting than I do using it.

11) 20-ton shop press. I have used it to press-in a set of ball-joints and so far that is about all (I think there was something else but apparently it was not important enough to remember). After looking around on the web I can see a lot of additional uses for it and tools can get for it that could be of some help.

12) In the picture I posted you can see the edge of a homemade work table. It was to have wheels on it and be movable but it has ended up being a storage/work table with the work part being very small (just like on my work bench). It was made from scrap wood and metal that I either was given or from bed frames (not the legs but other parts). I never did get around to putting a surface on top of the plywood.

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13) A homemade rotisserie. The build is currently on hold (again) but it has been use a lot not only to allow me to work on both sides of the pan but to turn the pan around so I can work on either the driver’s side or the passenger side in a tight working place.

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Good choice of tools Lee. Quality tools where applicable is a must. Buy USA where you can.
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This was pretty much in the order with the amount of use they get with the lathe/milling machine very close to the bottom. I do have to admit, when you need one and know how to use one, they are the best but if you don't then tools for the lathe/mill do get expensive. :roll:

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You have some nice equipment Lee, sorry for being off track before.
My compressor gets used quite a bit with its associated tools. I think the power tool that I have used the most over the years is my 4 in angle grinder. I have even picked up a cheap one just so I can keep a wire wheel on one at all times. The MIG welder now gets used more than the flux core welder or my missing arc welder. I get in and out of phases where I make stuff and then I dont. I have been in one of the dont phases the last few years but I think that is about to change.
Someday I can only hope to have a mill or a lathe, and I will keep an eye on the auctions for a belt sander.
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Mods, could one of you delete this string please. It did not come across as I had planned and could be (and probably is) miss-interpreted.

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Moved to tools forum.

Lee, I know what you were trying to do, but I think it works here.
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i mostly use dewalt battery tools, drills grinder, and a cold cut chop saw
2 angle grinders, my mig gets a lot of use
i bought a lathe, but haven't gotten a chance to fix it let alone use it
my wash tank is in constant use, there is always something in there soaking
when time and money permits i'll get a 2 post lift and an engine hoist

i modded my engine stand, so i can work on type 1 cranks, when engine building
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i also made a stand to mount bug and bus beams, for narrowing, lowering etc

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i can hold a beam still at any angle, it was easy to make and has saved me hours
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the beam stand is cool! I may need to do that. for a one or two off job. I really need a parts tank, and would kill for the spare $ for a glass bead cabinet. Someday I'll score one cheap I know.
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I like the beam holding bit myself. I wonder how it would/could be made to work as a jig for putting adjusters in the torsion tubes. Gotta think this one out. :wink:
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that usually means im gonna take an nap! I have never done adjusters, but when I cut and turned my bus beam I just did one tube at a time so everything stayed straight, and 2 hose clamps, giant vice grips, and a piece of straight angle iron to keep the center aligned all proper like. But the convenence and ease of access could be worth it. I want to add 2 center retainers to a stock width bus beam, and keeping that mess straight and even could be tricky. and sicne it mounts to the frame at the shock towers, it cant grow or shrink a MM.
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I did one adjuster at a time like you did on your cut and turn. As far as cutting the tubes; no, I don’t think I would be steady enough for the loads you could put on it if you were using a pipe cutter. If you were using a power hack saw or a sawsall type of tool, maybe it would be OK.

If you were widening the beam and made a mount that would support all three pieces of a tube as well as being able to work with/ rigidly support both tubes at the same time, maybe.

Is it necessary to have... no, but I can see there could be some viable reasons for mounting it on a stand if not just for moving it around in your old age ( :P ). It’s just an idea that may or have some merit to some... depending on many things.

The more I think about it the more complicated it could be. :wink: :lol: :roll:

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yeah I need a couple hundred bucks to recover the entire floor in plywood, and then everything will be on wheels. right now the gaps are big enough that lots of things make thier way to the basement in half sec, and nothing rolls when you want it to, so convenience is a joke.
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the beam holder works fine for fitting adjusters, have done a couple on it over the years, and a cut and turned bay beam
with a couple of extra pieces added it would be rigid enough to narrow a beam on aswell
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I made this tool and it did help some especially when I was centering the adjuster in the tube. It also did help some in the tacking process. The job could have been done quite easily w/o the jig; it did make picture taking easier.

If one was widening the beam, I could see where something like this would be of much more help.

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