Tru-line line bore kit?

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Tru-line line bore kit?

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Greetings,

I am not a VW guy but rather a Triumph racer. Thusly I have no clue what has been delivered to me today.

A buddy that used to do desert racing in his youth brought me some tools to see if I could sell them. The Bosch nibbler and the spot welder will stay here but the third box was fascinating.

Google tells me it's a Tru-line line boring kit with an optional fourth cutter presumably for a seal. It has a really trick cutter setting tool and a clever feed device. I saw a video of it working on YouTube. Amazing.

So if you can help me, what is this thing worth? I'd like it to go to enthusiasts.

Any advice Please?

Steve
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Some pics will really help get the answer.

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Here's a pic of the kit in question.

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Here's a link to more pictures.
http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/bb46 ... bar%20kit/


Thanx immensely for all of the offline responses, hope you guys enjoy seeing these pics. :lol:
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That is a really nice align boring bar set. Lots of shops use them even today.

I would not sell that for less than about $1.2K if it's complete and working condition.

Here's a guy looking for one: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... id=1264955
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cleaner than I would have expected. if you have the time, hold out for the collector that has to have it. I wager most folks who really need a tool like that, already have one. who's getting into the acvw game this late? if i
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x2
ive picked up mine (identical) ebay for 250 bucks (less thrust cutter)
it was a bargain, but indeed it is more of collector item (quote fuser)
most of airheads have such of tools, or simply use machine shops to cut for new bearings, because this tool requires mad precission skills and few other specialty tools to be able to do cuts.
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I just got a different brand, i thought it was tru line, but it uses a different cutter setup than yours, so not quite the same. Came from a guy in his late 60s closing up his vw shop, i bought it in a pile of stuff for basicly nothing, and he knew what it was worth. The 3rd oversize bearings were still new in oil cloth from the factory, but to quote his sales pitch "it is a fantastic tool, easier and much better than the rottler machine, but you are the only person I am going to come across who would actually want it." PM me if you wanna know what i spent, but it wasnt much
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It's something i would "love to have", but I have ... turned down the opportunity to buy several over the years, as I wouldn't use it enough to justify the cost of a complete/perfect condition one, and a worn out setup is worse than nothing.

An align hone setup to clean up T4 cases to size for "modern" T4 bearing OD would be the ticket.
(The new main bearings seem to have grown, and the holes seem to usually shrink with age/use, not get bigger like a mag case)
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Pile, i sold myself on buying the bar, before i knew the price, with the ole pipe dream or "hey i bet i can mod this for t4." Have yet to look if it is even possible, but my gut says not w/ the tools and skills i have
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I was not being able to find ANY tutorial showing the how to set it up in life scenario. I am sure that Machinists are not willing to share that knowlegde, for the fact that they would loose small chunk of the business- already forgotten skill. I think it is a taboo topic if i was a pro present days ill keep that skill for myself.
....still i am a new schooler, and this hobby is my far out retirement plan. If anybody is willing to share such of knowledge it will be first this type of write up on web
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you mean the rottler machine? that thing is black magick, lemme tell you. not the ideal design but it does work if you have the magick touch.
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that think is insane
one of the comments
"lucky bastards, I used to do this with an old line borer, took at least 6 hours to close caps, dial in and machine. I'd like to think my machining was better than this fandangled cnc but i know it likely isn't. probably perfect alignment and sizing right ?


ps:
actually newer video never seen before when i did this topic search last year.
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what magick is this? where the hey are the chips?
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i see them chips flying:)
2nd vid
i really like that jig they made i might make one for trueline cutter like that just to conform bore gauge measurements
Acutally it would have to be only 1/2 of that plate sketched or nitche it so i can pass the bar cutters throught the hole for # 1, 2, 3.
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I hate to comment on something I don't know for sure, but I am very confident that is bad practice. the block should be toruqed together w/ the tapered plugs already in it, to keep the case halves centered on eachother. yes the pins do that for you, but if there is a touch of slop, and the new mains will center. if the case is allowed to shift, the cam bore may be a touch off as well.
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