My 4Speed

Discuss with fans and owners of the most luxurious aircooled sedan/wagon that VW ever made, the VW 411/412. Official forum of Tom's Type 4 Corner.
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Bill K.
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My 4Speed

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Jumped on this 4 speed advertised on TheSamba this weekend. It's a nice car - all original and well maintained. Runs strong and efficient. It got 27 mpg going 65-75 mph on the 200 mile drive home. 114k miles, recent brake-job, new injectors, 150-155 compression, clutch master replaced in 1993, last registered 2001, recent tune-up, new fuel lines, full service records from dealer, original sticker, no rust, no leaks, great dashboard, good vinyl, straight body, fun to drive. I am happy.

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Lars S
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Post by Lars S »

Congratulations Bill!
Looks like a wery nice car. Fuel consumption is the same as for my -73 412LE 4-speed, just under 30mpg.

/Lars
-914/4 -72 daily driver
-Husqvarna 120cc rat bike -48
-Husqvarna 120cc -52
-BMW 600 Road Scrambler -69
-Suzuki T500 Cobra -69
-VW411LE 2-door sedan -70
-Porsche 914/4 -72
-VW412LE 4-door sedan -73
-Suzuki K50 -77
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Post by ubercrap »

Cool, I'm glad it was you that bought that car. It noticed it disappeared from the samba very quickly. Are you keeping your wagon?
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Bill K.
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Thanks guys. I wish I could keep the wagon, but I can't due to space constraints. It's for sale now.
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Post by Wally »

VERY nice original clean car! :shock:
Excellent buy Bill. Congrats!
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"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks
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Very maintained car! Yellow colour suits it nicely! Cool.
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Sweeeet! Ray
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Post by SureFit Travis »

Tsk-Tsk. Too bad about that sloppy driver's seat :lol: Seriously, nice car Bill.

I gonna have to put together some kind of repair kit for these seats :wink:

I'll send you pictures of the progress as I reupholster the seats in my 412.


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Bill K.
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Post by Bill K. »

Thanks everyone. I'm enjoying the 4 speed. Access to the engine compartment is a bit cramped compared to the wagon, but I'm learning the trick positions.

Travis - a seat repair kit would be great and is high on my 'to do' list for this car. My wagon has newly re-upoholstered seats that are so comfortable and with the automatic it makes commuting very easy.

Easy,
Bill
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Blog

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Started blogging the coupe at http://412coupe.blogspot.com/

Latest fun was with oil cooler leak - old leaking seals replaced. Only leaked during warmup. Leaked more when cold outside. Oil seen on front/bottom of oil cooler fins. Replaced with engine in car after removing shroud.

Also replaced alternator with 70amp AL108 from late bus with BA6 heater. Upgraded wiring to 4 gauge and replaced voltage regulator. Getting ready for new sound system...
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Happy New Year,
Bill
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Post by Lars S »

Nice work and blogg Bill!
Did you change the alternator with the engine still in the car? I did so on my 412 but had to use some gentle violence to get it out...

/Lars
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-Husqvarna 120cc rat bike -48
-Husqvarna 120cc -52
-BMW 600 Road Scrambler -69
-Suzuki T500 Cobra -69
-VW411LE 2-door sedan -70
-Porsche 914/4 -72
-VW412LE 4-door sedan -73
-Suzuki K50 -77
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Re: Blog

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Bill K. wrote:Started blogging the coupe at http://412coupe.blogspot.com/

Latest fun was with oil cooler leak - old leaking seals replaced. Only leaked during warmup. Leaked more when cold outside.

Bill
Very nice blog! I will post your link over on our type 4 section on the dutch website as well!

Can it be that the oil control/oil warm-up regulator valve is stuck? As I understood, when the oil is cold and thus thick, the purpose of that valve is to not route the oil to the oil cooler.
This makes me think that when cold, hardly any oil or oil pressure should be present at the oil cooler.
Just thinking out loud :wink:

Best regards,
Walter
T4T: 2,4ltr Type 4 Turbo engine, 10.58 1/4 mi in a streetlegal 1303

"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks
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Post by raygreenwood »

Oil cooler leaks are common with these cars. Its generally just the seals. Combination of age....or improper install from previous owner.

I urge you to read some of my writings on the 4-speed tranny. Great box!....but urge all owners of one to open them up, clean them and replace all diff bearings and countershaft bearings (as well as have a new countershaft made...its simple).

The spacer in the differential between the side shafts should be checked for wear and shimmed.

These trannys will run forever...but they carry in them the seeds of their own death by design.....all if them will die one of two ways. Ray
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Lars S wrote:Did you change the alternator with the engine still in the car? /Lars
Yes Lars, it came out easily after removing exhaust, right heat exchanger, air cleaner, air duct, and rear tin :roll:.
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Re: Blog

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Wally wrote:Very nice blog! I will post your link over on our type 4 section on the dutch website as well!

Can it be that the oil control/oil warm-up regulator valve is stuck? As I understood, when the oil is cold and thus thick, the purpose of that valve is to not route the oil to the oil cooler.
This makes me think that when cold, hardly any oil or oil pressure should be present at the oil cooler.
Just thinking out loud :wink:

Best regards,
Walter
Thanks Walter. Where is this valve you speak of located and how can it be tested? If stuck, how to fix?
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