GEX International Rip Off?

ck85abc · Post by **ck85abc** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:33 pm

Travis S wrote:Also cip1.com has large color adds and they have great stuff for good prices

Ive ordered from CIP1 before. Have never had a problem. Don't they sell GEX engine though?

drkoontz · Post by **drkoontz** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:58 pm

Travis S wrote:Also cip1.com has large color adds and they have great stuff for good prices

Don't take this wrong , I do Like CIP ( and buy from them).

But did you know that CIP sells GEX engines ........

Kenny2428 · Post by **Kenny2428** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:49 am

Yes, maybe we should inform them? If they sold a defunct engine(which i'm sure they have) the customer would blame it on CIP1....and they dont even build the engines, gex does.

dstar5000 · Post by **dstar5000** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:03 am

Glenn wrote:Maybe HVW and VWT should think about accepting ads from them.

Without those print ads, they'de probibly be out of business within a year.

In today's economy, they would accept an ad From Ted Kazynski(sp?) for fireworks.

Don

dstar5000 · Post by **dstar5000** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:05 am

Glenn wrote:
VWGirl wrote:...........If it's not there, it could of fallen off.

all the OTHER parts DO!

Don

zilch02pcusa · Post by **zilch02pcusa** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:16 pm

Travis S wrote:Also cip1.com has large color adds and they have great stuff for good prices

wholesale does wonderful things... but THEY CONTRACTED WITH GEX FOR THEIR TURNKEY MOTORS

hot73vw · Post by **hot73vw** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:20 pm

Okay, time for my 2 cents worth...I bought a GEX 1835 in '98 from someone that bought it from GEX in about '96. It was still in the GEX plastic wrap, and never had been run. Outwardly, it had a case that looked as if it had been sitting rotting away and had been "saved" and re-done. I was a little hesitant about getting it, but did anyway. It had an 8 dowel stock crank, stock rods, GEX 110 cam, steel pushrods, 041 (39x32) heads, single springs, steel oil pump, and chromolly rings. I installed it with a 36 horse doghouse fan, Kadrons, 1 1/2 qt deep sump and Eurotuck exhaust (Okay, I didn't know anything then). Other than seriously dripping oil from the rear pulley due to insufficient breathers, I didn't have any real problems. In pursuit of the oil drip problem, I took the engine out twice and replaced the rings with non chromolly ones. I put about 6k miles on it, including numerous trips to the dragstrip (6k rpm), an upgrade to the Kadrons and new exhaust that resulted in a best of 16.10 @ 82. Earlier this year, I took it apart because everyone told me I was on borrowed time with a GEX motor. The case had a 040 line bore w/ std thrust, std crank and everything appeared good, but it had a really nasty deck height, probably about 110-120. With the stock 041 heads I estimate the compression at about 6.5-7:1. I put new bearings, 94s, 044 Supermag heads 8.2:1 and a K7 cam, w/ 1.4s, full flowed with Berg pump and 72 pass cooler. To date with a 1 5/8s exhaust and A1 with IDAs and Berg 5 the car has gone 8.99 in the 1/8th and 14.5 @ 91 in the 1/4. I have turned the engine to 7500, and it's still together. Though I've heard other people locally complain about GEX, and I wouldn't ever buy another engine from them, it would appear I was one of the lucky ones. After this initial post I checked the cam and compared it to a stock replacement cam. It was basically a reground stock cam with a smaller lobe circle. The ramps appear more steep than the stocker and the effective lift would be higher with the smaller lobe circle. Also, the GEX sticker is still stuck to the case, even though its been in the parts cleaner and had numerous cleanings prior to assembly!
Sorry for the long post...

zilch02pcusa · Post by **zilch02pcusa** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:48 pm

almost as bad as MOFOCO engraving your case with their initials when you send it in for machining... even if you try to get it off theres still a faint outline of where it used to be...

farmer · Post by **farmer** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:19 pm

GEX used to be better. Up to about 3½ - 4 years ago I used a lot of GEX rebuilt rods for sockers and mild engines. But then the rods became worse. The work seemed alright, but the weight tolerances got way out of line. So now I use more and more CB unitech NEW rods. A little more $ but they are great.

Why are they still in business ? Well, the last ignorant person isnt dead yet. And there are always somebody that doesn´t have, or doesn´t want to spend the extra $$ for a proper built engine.

And even so. Every once in a while an engine comes up that you should just have said NO to build. I for one can sign to that. I´ve had my share.
Torben

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:28 pm

Sad thing is that most of the Newbies take the bait.

drkoontz · Post by **drkoontz** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 3:34 pm

I sure don't see what all the fuss is about ......

GEX makes some of the best .....

Boat anchors....(tie rope to engine throw over board)

Door stops......(place engine at edge open door)

Lowering kit ... (place your leaky gex engine in trunk of car)

Soap box .......(Stand upon your leaky gex engine)

Teeter Totter partner....... (place at opposite end)

Home plate......... (try sliding in on the that oily mess)

great April fools joke .... (swap out your buddies engine for a GEX time bomb)

Etc ....

Etc........

green65bug · Post by **green65bug** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:16 am

When camping they make good firewood too.

ErikTheRed · Post by **ErikTheRed** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:23 am

zilch02pcusa wrote:almost as bad as MOFOCO engraving your case with their initials when you send it in for machining... even if you try to get it off theres still a faint outline of where it used to be...

This is SOOOOOOOO true!!!!! I took my MOFUKO case in last year and had it machined at VeeDub Motorwerkes, and had them machine off the shameful MOFOCO signage from the sides of the oil sump--- after cutting it completely away, it is still PERFECTLY readable as if it had been seared in with muiratic acid!! But, I have to admit, at least they do something over there that seems to last!!

norcalvws · Post by **norcalvws** » Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:12 am

I Love GEX Engines

Without their wonderfull ability to F%ck-up a perfectly reuseable VW Engine, I wouldn't be building engines.....................................

Seriously, they suk & so do those that sell reman engines for $499.00.

I'm still seraching for the 100,000 Mile no leaks & no problems prick.

This dude is stating that all they need to do is change the engine oil. Funny, There's solid tappets in these so called 100,000 mile engines. What about the 30,50 or 70 K valve job..............
And we loose so many new to the VW hobby because of only a few A$$ holes.
Nor-Cal Dave.

EGad987 · Post by **EGad987** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:50 pm

Also cip1.com has large color adds and they have great stuff for good prices

Unfortunatly I just bought a turnkey motor from CIP1 and I'll give you one guess as to who built it?

I hope this thing works.