Name That Tool

[winifredevw]

OK..... Toooooool Number 3!

Removes a pilot bearing?

[Ol'fogasaurus]

[quote="winifredevw"][quote=Removes a pilot bearing?[/quote]

I don't think so. The knurled area looks to be for hand work and if a pilot bearing is that weak that it can be pulled with this, then it shouldn't be there in the first place. I don't think that is a hook for prying as the hook is too small and not curved enough to grab onto something but I can't figure it out either.

SCOTTRODS, what is the dia of the knurled area as by the pix it looks to be about the size of a pencil; also, a dimension for the length and the distance from the knurled rod to the handle looking thing. There's something about it that is in the back of my mind...

About a quarter of an inch of movement; still Hmmmm!

Lee

[Daniel G]

I am thinking it is some kind of bushing puller. Maybe for starter bushings but it looks kinda big for that

[SCOTTRODS]

Lee, The whole tool (Closed) is only 6.25 inches long. The main shaft is .5 inches across, and the "head", if you will, is just a hair under .75 inches. I should include more info when I post stuff like this... or maybe a ruler in the photo.

It does have a puller "feel" to it, due to it's weight. Very solid. But why the adjustable nut? It has a very fine thread, suggesting it is to adjust depth into a bore or tube/pipe or something. I don't know any more than you guys except I can hold it in my hand and "play with it"... (Don't tell my wife). I have not attempted to look it up anywhere online yet. I thought, at first, that it would be a tube piercing tool for pipe or maybe a staking tool use inside a pipe or something of that nature. Patent number is 4 digits long with a decimal and 3 more digits "XXXX.XXX". I think that makes it pretty old, but I'm not up on my Patent number stuff lately. It's not Patent Pending.... it's a full on Patent number.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

OK..... Toooooool Number 3!

This tool is an odd one too. It's definitely purpose built. Pretty substantial in build, NOT sheet metal as the last one was..... and has 2 moving parts. The collar has about a 1/4" or less threaded area to run up/down, in/out on... not much travel at all. The lever shows what happens when "open" and "Closed" positions.

In this photo, it looks like there has been some use as the "pointy thing" looks like is could be or has been sharpened, is that true or just the fuzzy picture. "...The lever shows what happens when "open" and "Closed" positions...", not sure what that means. It doesn't look like the part with the knurled part and the part that looks like a knuckle protector/or angle guide are independent of each other.

The tool is bigger than it looks. On the bottom of the "flat" handle is a dimple, is that what it is or is it a spot weld?

The knob that runs the end out the quarter of an inch is the head free or is it guided so that the pointy thing stays in a certain position or can it turn independent of the knob?

All things being equal, it doesn't look like a cutting tool (but it very well could be) but more like a pulling tool with the fine adjustment (for depth control?) but not required to pull hard as the knurl is fine almost to the point of being slippery. If the head rotates independently, then it could be used to cut (if sharpened) or pull something like “O-rings” or something like that out of a confined area.

I don’t think it is a measuring tool of any kind as there is not a stop on the handle part.

When we find out what it is I bet there is going to be some headaches from foreheads beat in with the heel of the hand.

Great puzzle, better than cross-words or circle word puzzles any day. Reverse engineering (recreating design/figuring out why it was done that way) has always been fun to me and was a product of many meetings to do just that.

Lee

[Dale M.]

Just post patent number or part number... Google search will probably find it....

Dale

[SCOTTRODS]

Just post patent number or part number... Google search will probably find it....

Dale

Now where's the fun in that, Dale?

I'm at work right now.... tool at home..... but I can answer some of the questions...

Basically The lever and the Pointy piece are all one piece.... I guess that's what I was trying to get through to the description on the first go round. There are 3 parts to this... the collar (screws up and down or in and out - according to orientation/comcept....) and the main piece (knurled part), that has the slot the lever is mounted into and pinned in the pivot point just above/outside of the collar.... and of course the lever itself.... The spot weld looking spot on the lever is just a small hole. no other special features I could identify. The pointy part has never been sharpened, and is as it was manufactured, I feel certain.

I will take another picture or two tonight and see if they help with the possibilities.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

Ahhhh, now that I go back and look at it with that information, I can see what you are talking about; I thought that the pin was lock for the threaded part, not a pivot and that the handle is in a slot (at first I thought it was a shadow. This is the problem with not being able to handle it).

Looking at it closer now, with the additional information, it looks like the “beak” hooks/digs onto something and you tighten the thumb wheel up to lock it in place, does that sound right or does the thumb wheel limit the opening of the handle or both? It looks like the thumb wheel has a flat surface on the hook side of the tool, is there a wear pattern on the hook side of the thumb wheel? The knurled part of the handle is then used to pull the ??? out. The ¾ inch diameter is the confusing part to it though. I tried to use a picture improver program and didn’t get too much more.



Lee

[SCOTTRODS]

OK.... I'm gonna give another piece of info. Best I can tell, this tool was patented in 1941.... that's the best i could do with the patent office online... someone else may have better luck. The number is 2229.571 I've decided the decimal point has to be an accident according to the patent stuff I read and discovered from. None of the numbers are spaced really perfectly really... so I can understand a bobble in the numbering. The tool is made by "HOUSER"

New pics.... I know this won't help much, but I have 2 decent close-ups of the business end, and the "thumb wheel" areas.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=022 ... first+page

Door handle Ferrel insterter by Elmer johnson. Jan 21,1941

Lee

[SCOTTRODS]

http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=022 ... first+page

Door handle Ferrel insterter by Elmer johnson. Jan 21,1941

Lee

Cool Deal, Lee..... I figured if you guys couldn't figure it out here, I was going to the H.A.M.B. next.

Not a really common tool, huh?

Next tool......

[Ol'fogasaurus]

Remember I said it started to look kind of familiar, the last pictures you posted did it. A high school friend of mine, back in the late fifties and early 60's father had one in his mess of tools. I remember playing with it but no one knew what it was. His uncle was into old cars and that was where it may have come from as he collected old tools as I remember.

Lee

[SCOTTRODS]

The next tool.... #4, is possibly just part of a larger tool. It has nonumbers or names on it. It appears to be part of a VERY precision instrument really. This "tool" was stuck in the crook of a pair of channel locks when I found it, and it has no similarity to any of the other tools in this pile of hodge-podge items. I'm pretty sure it's not a "pointer" off another tool. It has a very hard, non-spring metal shaft/point, machined flat on one side, 9/16" of the tip.... shown in the picture/s. The "handle part is 1/4" thick, knurled... 1" in length, the total tool length is 3" and a smidge.... There are NO threads on the shaft. It has what appears to be some small amount of wear as though someone had tried to sharpen the pointy part, too smooth to be sharpened though... definitely worn.... the wear is on the "flattened" side, or "cut" side. I don't really expect an ID on this one, but You Guys have done some great work finding these tools online and putting a name and purpose to them. You may be able to work this one out too.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

My guess (and it is a guess) would be a scribe to be used along with blueing of something; a layout tool. That flat spot is going to allow the point to be very close to the traced object w/o lying over and miss scribing it getting a dull/thick scribed mark. The other thing would be to be used on a compass for something similar. I think it is a marking tool of some sort.

I think I still have a lead holder for drafting that is like that exept it is flat on both sides. I think it is still loaded with plastic lead which is used on mylar film.

Lee

[SCOTTRODS]

My guess (and it is a guess) would be a scribe to be used along with blueing of something; a layout tool. That flat spot is going to allow the point to be very close to the traced object w/o lying over and miss scribing it getting a dull/thick scribed mark. The other thing would be to be used on a compass for something similar. I think it is a marking tool of some sort.

Lee

I thought about the compass part too. I have a couple of very old compas and drawing tool sets from my father's youth and older.... they have some pretty sharp needles in them. Nothing like this. I considered it as maybe a more "professional" tool possibly. I should mention there were about 4 or 5 measuring tools in this mess, including some Starrett Micrometers and run-out gauges, and such... dial indicators (times 3 I think)... all of them in good working order too. One "set" missing some parts. This could go with that stuff I suppose... but doesn't really fit the case cut outs in the case. I believe I know what's missing in it with the exception of one piece.... and haven't gone huntin' for it yet. There are sheet metal tools and wood working tools and homemade stuff too.... I'm just posting the fun stuff really. I may have some other stuff in my tool collection that could confuse also. But I think this pointer piece thingy is the last one I think is hard to ID in this group.