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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 am
by Kalle
Congrats man! 91hp corrected I pressume? The same 12% or so?
250hp from a 1300cc should be doable with a turbo.
-K-
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:39 am
by brewsy
Wally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:19 am
Well, it still made 91hp! I was obviously very pleased with that!
When I know all results of the others, I post it up.
Some crazy Berliner made 250hp from a 1300cc!
Congrats!
Thats very stout and bodes well for when you bolt the snail onto it!!!
As for that Berliner....
I'll have her/him one day in the unofficial 1285cc/77mm bore class
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:17 pm
by Wally
Kalle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 am
Congrats man! 91hp corrected I pressume? The same 12% or so?
250hp from a 1300cc should be doable with a turbo.
-K-
Tnx! Yes, already corrected for drivetrain losses.
But no, not as a percentage as its a (very) different Dyno.
It seems pretty accurate as original engines basically had original hp numbers, but other then that, its an old unit also used for trucks LOL!
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:22 pm
by buguy
That's awesome. Triple the power it started with!
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:06 pm
by panel
Wally wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:19 am
Some crazy Berliner made 250hp from a 1300cc!
OMG
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:21 pm
by Wally
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:03 am
by split1950
So there is a replacement for displacement!
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:46 am
by andy198712
That’s mega out of a 1200! What rpm did you hit and peak at?
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:39 am
by Wally
andy198712 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:46 am
That’s mega out of a 1200! What rpm did you hit and peak at?
6275 RPM
Dyno might have been a little optimistic I think, but still
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:21 am
by Bruce.m
What spec is the “Salzburg” 1641?
Does it have any original parts or is it a cut down fan shroud on a different spec engine. Strong PS from it, so curious.
Interesting mix of engines
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:46 am
by Wally
Bruce.m wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:21 am
What spec is the “Salzburg” 1641?
Does it have any original parts or is it a cut down fan shroud on a different spec engine. Strong PS from it, so curious.
Interesting mix of engines
Only know it has FK89 cam with 48IDA’s.. Could not be measured properly I understood, so outputnumber you saw might not be accurate..
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:50 am
by Wally
Well known posure for the car as dyno mule
Most fun was the original 1200 industrial engine in the buggy, where only the Empi 4-1 exhaust was put on.
The evening before, the guys brought à home made kit of parts, amongst which a GT1544 turbo and in 2,5 hours of wrenching, it made 76hp on the Dyno next day!!
Totally amazing wrenching and carb conversion skills!
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:50 am
by Eddie010
Walter nice figures… and nice video..
Really cool nowdays…
Man 250HP on a biturbo 1300.... i say whooo
You are now going to put a turbo on the 1200 and see how much power there is?????
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:49 am
by brewsy
Thanks to Sascha for making the video.
Wally, your 1200 sounded mean!!
May I ask a favour? I noticed that the compound turbo 1641 Fiat was also from the Netherlands, by any chance do you know if they have a build thread?
Cheers
Marc
Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:13 pm
by Wally
Eddie: the 1300 is a single twin scroll turbo (from a Mini)..
But yes, next year a turbo will sit on this one (hence the section this post is in
)
First I'll try to retard the cam a bunch to see if it will pull a little more up top and to get a good torque chart from my usual dyno place (you know the one
)
Good eye Marc, but sorry, the owner (Hendrik) doesn't do website write ups afaik..
I did make a picture when he took the rear apron off though
There was a lot more in it, but his injectors maxxed out and the clutch slipped heavily..
