200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
- Kalle
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Congrats man! 91hp corrected I pressume? The same 12% or so?
250hp from a 1300cc should be doable with a turbo.
-K-
250hp from a 1300cc should be doable with a turbo.
-K-
- brewsy
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Congrats!
Thats very stout and bodes well for when you bolt the snail onto it!!!
As for that Berliner....
I'll have her/him one day in the unofficial 1285cc/77mm bore class
- Wally
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Tnx! Yes, already corrected for drivetrain losses.
But no, not as a percentage as its a (very) different Dyno.
It seems pretty accurate as original engines basically had original hp numbers, but other then that, its an old unit also used for trucks LOL!
T4T: 2,4ltr Type 4 Turbo engine, 10.58 1/4 mi in a streetlegal 1303
"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks
"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks
- buguy
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
That's awesome. Triple the power it started with!
- panel
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
'65 Bus with a JDM Subaru EJ20 Turbo
Built by Germans powered by Japanese and brought together by Canadians
Built by Germans powered by Japanese and brought together by Canadians
- Wally
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split1950
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
So there is a replacement for displacement!
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andy198712
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
That’s mega out of a 1200! What rpm did you hit and peak at?
- Wally
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
6275 RPMandy198712 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:46 am That’s mega out of a 1200! What rpm did you hit and peak at?
Dyno might have been a little optimistic I think, but still
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Bruce.m
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
What spec is the “Salzburg” 1641?
Does it have any original parts or is it a cut down fan shroud on a different spec engine. Strong PS from it, so curious.
Interesting mix of engines
Does it have any original parts or is it a cut down fan shroud on a different spec engine. Strong PS from it, so curious.
Interesting mix of engines
- Wally
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Only know it has FK89 cam with 48IDA’s.. Could not be measured properly I understood, so outputnumber you saw might not be accurate..
T4T: 2,4ltr Type 4 Turbo engine, 10.58 1/4 mi in a streetlegal 1303
"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks
"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks
- Wally
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Well known posure for the car as dyno mule

Most fun was the original 1200 industrial engine in the buggy, where only the Empi 4-1 exhaust was put on.
The evening before, the guys brought à home made kit of parts, amongst which a GT1544 turbo and in 2,5 hours of wrenching, it made 76hp on the Dyno next day!!
Totally amazing wrenching and carb conversion skills!


Most fun was the original 1200 industrial engine in the buggy, where only the Empi 4-1 exhaust was put on.
The evening before, the guys brought à home made kit of parts, amongst which a GT1544 turbo and in 2,5 hours of wrenching, it made 76hp on the Dyno next day!!
Totally amazing wrenching and carb conversion skills!

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Eddie010
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Walter nice figures… and nice video..
Really cool nowdays…
Man 250HP on a biturbo 1300.... i say whooo
You are now going to put a turbo on the 1200 and see how much power there is?????
Really cool nowdays…
Man 250HP on a biturbo 1300.... i say whooo
You are now going to put a turbo on the 1200 and see how much power there is?????
- brewsy
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Thanks to Sascha for making the video.
Wally, your 1200 sounded mean!!
May I ask a favour? I noticed that the compound turbo 1641 Fiat was also from the Netherlands, by any chance do you know if they have a build thread?
Cheers
Marc
Wally, your 1200 sounded mean!!
May I ask a favour? I noticed that the compound turbo 1641 Fiat was also from the Netherlands, by any chance do you know if they have a build thread?
Cheers
Marc
- Wally
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Re: 200hp 1200DP Turbo 'Challenger motor'
Eddie: the 1300 is a single twin scroll turbo (from a Mini)..
But yes, next year a turbo will sit on this one (hence the section this post is in
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First I'll try to retard the cam a bunch to see if it will pull a little more up top and to get a good torque chart from my usual dyno place (you know the one
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Good eye Marc, but sorry, the owner (Hendrik) doesn't do website write ups afaik..
I did make a picture when he took the rear apron off though
There was a lot more in it, but his injectors maxxed out and the clutch slipped heavily..

But yes, next year a turbo will sit on this one (hence the section this post is in
First I'll try to retard the cam a bunch to see if it will pull a little more up top and to get a good torque chart from my usual dyno place (you know the one
Good eye Marc, but sorry, the owner (Hendrik) doesn't do website write ups afaik..
I did make a picture when he took the rear apron off though
There was a lot more in it, but his injectors maxxed out and the clutch slipped heavily..

T4T: 2,4ltr Type 4 Turbo engine, 10.58 1/4 mi in a streetlegal 1303
"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks
"Mine isn't turbo'd to make a slow engine fast, but to make a fast engine insane" - Chip Birks