Joxracing's 1966 Baja "The Resurection"

Joxracing · Post by **Joxracing** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:01 pm

alright, so 7 bucks for a ballast resistor, the flame thrower, coupled with the 009 dizzy with petronix points and new plugs should have this thing runnin' ?

now, this flat spot that everyone gets with the 009, is it really that bad?

whats the story on petronix? there good right?

Ol'fogasaurus · Post by **Ol'fogasaurus** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:21 pm

And spark plug wires. If they have or are starting to break down, all the good stuff be worth diddly-squat and will the plugs will soon foul.

Post by **Piledriver** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:03 pm

Short answer: Red coil + ballast + pertronix or compufire combo should work OK.

Pertronix are fine, as is the Compufire.

The lack of a ballast with a red coil, used with a compufure or pertronix module is just as likely to smoke the module as it is the coil. (Same for a Mallory Unilite)

The 009 causes the flat spot because it is missing the vacuum advance. It can easily be recurved to reduce the effect, also you can increase the accelerator pump shot volume and/or speed slightly, some richen the idle jet to compenate as well.

Lack of working manifold heat makes this worse, and it all of the above will hurt your fuel mileage some.

There ARE driver modules that work w/o a ballast, VW/Audi etc used them on Golfs/Rabbits/etc, GM used a similar setup in their HEI modules, both have a current regulator and adaptive dwell. The VW one can be triggered by points or the Pertronix.

Joxracing · Post by **Joxracing** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:57 pm

got my parts yesterday...

the flame thrower with 1.5 ohms will be enough for the petronix 009 right?(and ballast resistor?)

new plugs.

009 electric ign. dizzy

flame thrower 1.5 coil

Joxracing · Post by **Joxracing** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:57 pm

anyone know how to hook up the pertronix 009 dizzy?

just red wire to positive on coil, and black to negative?

Turbo_Manx_Maniac · Post by **Turbo_Manx_Maniac** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:32 pm

Joxracing wrote:anyone know how to hook up the pertronix 009 dizzy?

just red wire to positive on coil, and black to negative?

Yup, and the switched Red power wire (through your ballast resistor) from the ignition switch also to the + on the coil.

You should have bought the 3 ohm coil and ditched the ballast resistor.

Post by **Piledriver** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:00 pm

Pertronix hook up instructions:

www.pertronix.com/support/manuals/pdf/ignitor12vneg.pdf

If using the ballast, the red lead to the pertronix goes to the input---+12V side of the ballast, The black goes to the - side of the coil, and the Other side of the ballast powers the + side of the coil.

The only thing the ballast in the coil does is heat up the coil.

Joxracing · Post by **Joxracing** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:54 pm

alright, im gonna go run down to car quest and get an external ballast.

me and my buddy are gonna try to fire this thing up.

oh btw, david, are you gonna be at the shop tonight?
if i were to run into any problems i could give you a call.

thanks.

Joxracing · Post by **Joxracing** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:26 pm

YES!!!!!

It made noise and smoke!!

It started!!!!

I had one of my friends dad came out at around 7 and we started to work, drained the oil, put new oil in, he wired everything up good, and it started!!!!

Then the carb started to stick, so i didnt run for like more than 30sec, but it ran.

the throttleflange? kept sticking and the carb was running with the devil, so we kept trying and it kept sticking.

so he took my two 1bbl'sback to his house and is gonna rebuild them for tmrw.

then we're gonna final time it, the hopfully go for a ride!!!

Im sooo pumped!!

PS
my bug sounds like a pissed off hog.
its loud, and smokey.

Oh, and i would like to thank my new sponsor, Budweiser Gasket Co.

Whoever built this baja before me had some real redneck engunity.

bajaherbie · Post by **bajaherbie** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:40 pm

good job.... carb probably needs a good cleaning......

Post by **Hedrock** » Fri May 15, 2009 8:46 pm

Congrats Jox. I knew you could do it

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Lotrat · Post by **Lotrat** » Fri May 15, 2009 11:06 pm

Out of everything I've done to my baja, nothing brings more satisfaction than starting it up for the first time... Congrats! Do you still have a silly grin on your face?

Joxracing · Post by **Joxracing** » Sat May 16, 2009 9:03 pm

Well, the running car was short lived.

we got the cab on this morning, started it up, and it would rev like someone had there foot to the floor and then it would cut out.

so we had the guy come out again, and we switched out the elec. points dizzy with the mechanical style dizzy, and tried it and we got the idle sounding pretty good...

but then we were blowing oil outa the exhuast pipe, and out of the #1 and #3 cylinders, so we shut it down, and my buddy advised us to check the pistons and rings..

so we droped the motor, while he took a set of 1641 pistons and jugs back to his shop to have them cleaned and worked on..

looked like the #1 and 3 piston's rings were wore right down, so tmrw or monday ill be putting those 1641 pistons and jugs on, then putting the motor back in.

ugh....

airdreams1 · Post by **airdreams1** » Sun May 17, 2009 12:51 am

sorry if this seems like a thread jack..........

I have run the 3 Ohm Flame Thrower for several thousand miles & never put in a ballast resistor. (its the one meant for off road & can handle the vibration) I also have the 009 w/electronic Ignitor, 8mm wires, & bosh plugs. & still no problems. (have had the same setup on 2 other bugs in the past as well.)

Also I have done he exact same swap for several other VW owners & they havent had a single problem yet. (Many of them put 10 to 15k miles a year on there cars)

The only recomindation I have is to use a drop of adheasive to hold the wires to the inside of the dizzy. I had one wire get pulled & rub the pick-up, thus rubbing a hole in the wire insolation.....

So I dont see the ballast resistor as a nessacery part. But i could be wrong....

Oh & all the cars were 12 volt or converted to 12 volt with new wireing (except mine. its 12v, but still has the orignal wiring.)

Post by **Leatherneck** » Sun May 17, 2009 2:12 am

Keep at it Jox, don't let it kick your butt.