I have both metal bases with intact bulbs. So far I've found one amber lens with chrome top but not the other. I see several to chose from on ebay but all from earlier years. Is 1967 a unique year for this part or can I use other years?
TIA,
kevin
1967 bug missing front turn signal
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Marc
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It doesn't help that there's dispute amongst parts-sellers, so descriptions of the application of these parts are inconsistent from one to the next.
Here's the way I remember it...could be there were running changes I'm unaware of, but of all the cars I've owned and worked on it's like this.
`67 (with American-market "upright" headlights) uses the same bulbholder as `68/`69 - accepts a 2-filament 1157 lamp.
The lens and cover will interchange with older back to late`64 (single-filament type that came on fenders with the early headlamps).
Left and right side lenses and covers are identical; lens P/N is 111 953 161J
`68/`69 covers are cut back further on their sides to improve functionality as sidemarker lamps; the lenses are also modified slightly to match. Lens P/N is 113 953 161A. You could fit a pair of these to a `67 and most folks wouldn't notice, but they wouldn't be "correct".
...a `68/`69 cover will fit over a `64-`67 lens but unfluted areas of the lens are exposed on the sides and it looks dorky. A `64-`67 cover will not fit over a `68/`69 lens unless you thin the "bulges" on the sides of the lens.
`70 and up (and Things) all use the larger, "two-screw" lamp that has a small sidemarker bulb in the rear (and a different bolt pattern in the fender). These are of course side-specific.
Here's the way I remember it...could be there were running changes I'm unaware of, but of all the cars I've owned and worked on it's like this.
`67 (with American-market "upright" headlights) uses the same bulbholder as `68/`69 - accepts a 2-filament 1157 lamp.
The lens and cover will interchange with older back to late`64 (single-filament type that came on fenders with the early headlamps).
Left and right side lenses and covers are identical; lens P/N is 111 953 161J
`68/`69 covers are cut back further on their sides to improve functionality as sidemarker lamps; the lenses are also modified slightly to match. Lens P/N is 113 953 161A. You could fit a pair of these to a `67 and most folks wouldn't notice, but they wouldn't be "correct".
...a `68/`69 cover will fit over a `64-`67 lens but unfluted areas of the lens are exposed on the sides and it looks dorky. A `64-`67 cover will not fit over a `68/`69 lens unless you thin the "bulges" on the sides of the lens.
`70 and up (and Things) all use the larger, "two-screw" lamp that has a small sidemarker bulb in the rear (and a different bolt pattern in the fender). These are of course side-specific.
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I've been working on this car for so long that I've lost items. Or put them in unmarked boxes. Just yesterday while rummaging I found the second turn signal unit. It appeared when I was searching for the levers that mount to the tunnel to control heat. Or the mounts for the pop-out quarters, which I also didn't find. So I've got both turn signals now. The amber lenses are too damaged to be used but the chrome tops are fine. If the parts that I ordered aren't useful hopefully I can send them back and find new amber lenses.
This was my first attempt at a full restoration. I never realized it would take so long. If I'd known, I would have taken more care to store and mark everything. Some parts probably weren't lost but used on another VW that I recently sold.
kevin
This was my first attempt at a full restoration. I never realized it would take so long. If I'd known, I would have taken more care to store and mark everything. Some parts probably weren't lost but used on another VW that I recently sold.
kevin