Turn Signal/Brake Light Toggle

[DesertGuy]

On my project, everything will be operated by toggle switches. I am trying to find a way to control my left and right turn blinkers from a toggle switch. Here is one way (I think), is there a better way to skin the cat?

Haven't quite figured out the brake light switch for integrated tail lights, any ideas?

[mike cook]

if you do not have the relays yet I have 4 with pigtails 4 sale

[DesertGuy]

Thanks Mike, I may take you up on that. Unfortunately, this "animal" is getting bigger and bigger, from my last count, I will be using in the neighborhood of 15 or so relays

OK, trying to get the whole "intergrated brake light" thing figured out. Obviously, I need the brakes and tailights to function harmoniously, and not have my front blinkers "brighten" as if they were brake lamps also. So with that in mind, would this circuit work?

[72bajaben]

maybe im not looking at this right, but why are you going to use 1 relay per indicator?

[DesertGuy]

Hey Ben, the indicator will be the light (left/right) on the dash. I'm thinking if I tap off of the front turn blinkers that this will have the indicators light up appropriately. And keeping the front blinkers and indicators separate from the rear lights will allow the Turn Signal to "over-ride" the Brake Light for the applied side while allowing the other side to still function.

However, even as I say the above, I do not pretend to know all of this electrical stuff. I was sitting back trying to figure out how I could make it work and this is what I came up with, but I am definately open to better ways of doing it.

[72bajaben]

so you have a single light in the back that you want for both brake and turn?

[72bajaben]

and as far as the indicator on the dash, you can splice those in the light side of your flasher relay and they will work just fine. that is how i did mine.

[DesertGuy]

Yup, I will have a single red LED that will function as running, turn, and brake light... or at least that is my hope

[MNAirHead]

One of the cars I Used to have had a quick steer and then the toggle on the steering wheel.. was very sweet.

I like toggles better than that cheeezewad universal arm.

2nd suggestion.. get the toggle that automatically returns to the off position.. I tried the other and everyone thought I was 90 driving around with full time signals.

[72bajaben]

2nd suggestion.. get the toggle that automatically returns to the off position.. I tried the other and everyone thought I was 90 driving around with full time signals.

I think that im going to have to 2nd that 2nd suggestion. i do the same thing all the time. but i dont know if i want to hold the toggle either. lol

And you know if you are going to use a single light then your way might be the best way. cause i dont know how to do it with a single light. you should wire it up then see if it works. lol

[MNAirHead]

Then I'll 2nd your 2nding my 2nd.

[Dougy Dee]

You could get a 2 light to one lite/bulb adapter from a trailer place. They use this to wire multi bulb vehicle lighting to single bulb trailer wiring. About a $15 item. This will allow you to run a single bulb taillite in your system. I used a toggle switch to control lites but put a LOUD buzzer in line to keep from driving like a 90 year old....

[2088 bob]

lets take Dougs suggestion just a little further its the same system i use in my own car

first off to trigger just a single flashing indicator light on the dash for your turns signals use a 3 pin turn signal flasher it gives you an output to drive a single light that will flash whether you are turning left or right

to do the taillights go to your local auto parts store and buy a cheap turn signal adapter the ones that are used when you want to tow a trailer with 2 element bulbs with a european car that has 3 element taillights

saves that whole big hassle of the 4 relay setup to do that job and is much cheaper just hook it up according the the drawings provided with the unit and you are in business

2 tips for the above make absolutely sure that your tail light assemblies have really good grounds to the point of running a dedicated ground out to the light assemblies

secondly don't energize the adapter without the above mentioned ground because usually by about the third flash in an ungrounded setup they become junk

ps .......i also have a small piezo buzzer hooked to my indicator flasher to remind me to cancel my turn signals




2 elements 3 functions tail/running lights, brake lights,turn signals

[MNAirHead]

ps .......i also have a small piezo buzzer hooked to my indicator flasher to remind me to cancel my turn signals

If you want to sell this.. have a name... GeezerBuzzer.. could become required equipment on all land-yachts in florida...

[MNAirHead]

The young guys building a rail have a set up like this..

They bought it on line..

toggle switch.. light indicators to both sides.. I could snap a shot of the guts if you like (would take a week).

Tim