hey guys, after reading all the posts about taking the car down to bare metal and finding a paint stripping wheel for our 4.5" angle grinder we decided that it would be the best bet. The paint stripping wheel works wonders for removing anything (paint, plastic, primer, etc) it just blows everything right off. Got it at Lowes for like 9 bucks, highly recommended.. I'll have some pictures up soon.
my question is... Now that I'm stripping this paint off it's sitting with bare metal and surface rust is starting to form. I need to lay some primer down quick!! I'm very interested in this metal etching primer and have read that the OMNI MP 176 is good to start with, what does anyone think?? Is the metal etching the best way to go? can I get something halfway decent at Pep Boys?? From what I understand, after putting the metal etching primer on I will have to put a epoxy primer on and then the paint?? Is this right? I will most likely be putting the primer on and sanding it down to straighten it out, there's no rush for the color just yet I just want something that will protect the metal.
What is the procedure for body filler? would this happen before the metal etching primer or after?? thanks a lot for all the info!
'ghia to bare metal
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JC-ATL
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Re: 'ghia to bare metal
I can't recommend a specific brand, but metal etching or epoxy primer is a good first coat.Pete65 wrote: I'm very interested in this metal etching primer and have read that the OMNI MP 176 is good to start with, what does anyone think?? Is the metal etching the best way to go?
Not likely. Find a local auto paint jobber.Pete65 wrote:can I get something halfway decent at Pep Boys??
Metal etching then epoxy seems like overkill, to me. I prefer the etching primer, some guys like epoxy, never heard anyone use both.Pete65 wrote:From what I understand, after putting the metal etching primer on I will have to put a epoxy primer on and then the paint?? Is this right? I will most likely be putting the primer on and sanding it down to straighten it out, there's no rush for the color just yet I just want something that will protect the metal.
That's another one for personal preference. I like to prime, speckle/shadow, block sand, then fill, then prime again. Some guys feel like they can do just as good of a job without the guidance of the shadowing - I don't feel that good about my abilities myself.Pete65 wrote:What is the procedure for body filler? would this happen before the metal etching primer or after??
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The benefit of having a friend who owns a body shop is he gives me lots of advice. When I did my last bus, he said you CANNOT use body filler over etching primer, only epoxy. His explanation was that the chemicals in the etching primer that "bond" it to the metal will react badly with the body filler, and cause it to lift. So if you have stripped it bare, and it needs any kind of bondo work, use epoxy. He swears by epoxy no matter what, as it lays on good, and has superior protection for a long tyime before paint is applied. Basically, you could paint a car with epoxy, and it could sit for a while before painting it, and you could pick up where you left off. But, with etching, you need to get the paint on much quicker. Either way, you should use a good high build primer before paint. This is what i did on my bus, and it turned out great. Hope this helps.
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SteveE
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One suggestion to prevent surface rust is to keep the car under one of those blue plastic tarps, (even indoors). Hold the edges of the tarp down with bricks, rocks, whatever. That way it forms a "seal" and keeps most moisture away from the metal. I stripped the paint off my car in December, during our rainy season (bad timing 
) The car sat outside in the driveway and it rained heavily on and off for over a month, during the stripping process, but I did as I said, kept it covered up, with bricks to keep the tarp sealed against the asphalt, and was amazed at how little surface rust appeared. A quick once over with a Scotch Brite pad was all it took to remove it prior to priming and painting.
) The car sat outside in the driveway and it rained heavily on and off for over a month, during the stripping process, but I did as I said, kept it covered up, with bricks to keep the tarp sealed against the asphalt, and was amazed at how little surface rust appeared. A quick once over with a Scotch Brite pad was all it took to remove it prior to priming and painting.