Has anyone fitted a Rover V8 into a T2 Bay window camper....if so where did they put the radiator...in fact anyone who has fitted anything water cooled to a T2 van without cutting external body work or having it stuck out at the front.
I have seen one van with a Rover V8 fitted but it sat out the back of the van and there were holes everywhere for the rads!!! not nice.
I want it to fit and have no idea that its there.
Thanks guys..
Mike Ghia
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Steve C
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Hi
Go to this site http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/1811/ the webmaster is a friend of mine and has done exactly the same conversion.
Regards Steve C
Go to this site http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/1811/ the webmaster is a friend of mine and has done exactly the same conversion.
Regards Steve C
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gingabloke
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A friend of mine did one of these a few years ago. The engine was a litle too long - in fact it was the water pump rather than the whole engine. He cut a hole in the engine lid and mounted a metal jerry can (with its back cut out) on a bracket on the lid to give a little more room. Bearing in mind the number of campers with spare wheels/bike racks/etc mounted on the back it looked OK.
Main problem was the gearing is too low. On the Run To The Sun he changed gear 3 times from Bucks to Newquay! in the end he stripped 2nd gear smooth (he never used 1st cos it was way too low but abused 2nd instead).
G
Main problem was the gearing is too low. On the Run To The Sun he changed gear 3 times from Bucks to Newquay! in the end he stripped 2nd gear smooth (he never used 1st cos it was way too low but abused 2nd instead).
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Gingabloke,
I have seen a van which has a Buick motor in which is the same engine, just bigger! and he almost has the engine in. He's mounted a remote waterpump which gets rid of one thing but the still runs the oil filter in situ which I'm going to move as that gets in the way too. I had no idea how cheap these engines are, I just picked up 2 for around £40 each!!!
Mine will be going onto an Auto box.I have the T2 auto box aswell as a T4 auto box and the gearing is very different between them so I think I'll be going for the T4 Auto box as I guessed that the T2 would be too low geared.
Any pics of your mates van? where did he mount the rad as I want to keep it out of sight.
Mike Ghia
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I have seen a van which has a Buick motor in which is the same engine, just bigger! and he almost has the engine in. He's mounted a remote waterpump which gets rid of one thing but the still runs the oil filter in situ which I'm going to move as that gets in the way too. I had no idea how cheap these engines are, I just picked up 2 for around £40 each!!!
Mine will be going onto an Auto box.I have the T2 auto box aswell as a T4 auto box and the gearing is very different between them so I think I'll be going for the T4 Auto box as I guessed that the T2 would be too low geared.
Any pics of your mates van? where did he mount the rad as I want to keep it out of sight.
Mike Ghia
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Hi Mike,
I saw a Bus with a round radiator mounted as if it were a spare tire on the front. It had some kind of mesh, and really looked like a spare tire. I'm sorry I can't remember were it is on the web. Maybe Steve at Wild VWs in Sydney can help. His URL was posted earlier in this thread.
Cheers, John www.ghiaspecialties.com
I saw a Bus with a round radiator mounted as if it were a spare tire on the front. It had some kind of mesh, and really looked like a spare tire. I'm sorry I can't remember were it is on the web. Maybe Steve at Wild VWs in Sydney can help. His URL was posted earlier in this thread.
Cheers, John www.ghiaspecialties.com
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Hi Mike,
Pictures? sorry, no. Like I said, it looked quite normal at the time, no obvious give aways. The van's gone and the engine is in a Desperate Dan's trike in Northern Ireland!
The rad was mounted horizontally under the centre of the bus - it wasn't lowered - with a small lip spoiiler on the leading edge of the rad to direct the air a little. And it all worked! He put the rad there to see if it would work so that he wouldn't have to have it somewhere more obvious, like on the front panel etc. and cos it all worked he never moved it. Only ground out once, at Run To The Sun of all places.
He looked at fitting a T25 gearbox to raise the gearing but at this point moved to N Ireland where everyone runs on green diesel (Rep of Ireland equivalent to red diesel) at 17p a litre. So it was out with the V8 and in with a Passat 1600 diesel! Not quite the same horsepower but a hell of a lot cheaper to run...
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Pictures? sorry, no. Like I said, it looked quite normal at the time, no obvious give aways. The van's gone and the engine is in a Desperate Dan's trike in Northern Ireland!
The rad was mounted horizontally under the centre of the bus - it wasn't lowered - with a small lip spoiiler on the leading edge of the rad to direct the air a little. And it all worked! He put the rad there to see if it would work so that he wouldn't have to have it somewhere more obvious, like on the front panel etc. and cos it all worked he never moved it. Only ground out once, at Run To The Sun of all places.
He looked at fitting a T25 gearbox to raise the gearing but at this point moved to N Ireland where everyone runs on green diesel (Rep of Ireland equivalent to red diesel) at 17p a litre. So it was out with the V8 and in with a Passat 1600 diesel! Not quite the same horsepower but a hell of a lot cheaper to run...
G
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Monster
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Hi All,
Just signed up to this site today and am loving it already. Anyway, this Rover conversion is one I've done. Steve C mentioned my website at http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/garage/1811 so some of you may have seen it. It's a pretty easy conversion and being in Australia I decided to mount the radiator on the front behind the bullbar although I am looking at mounting it under the front between the rails and getting rid of the bar altogether. I had the same problem with engine length so I took the water pump off and made a plate with an adapter like a thermostat housing to run to a remote water pump. It works just fine even on really hot days but I'm thinking about running an electric pump from Davies Craig instead as it means less belts and less pipe work.
Anyway, with a 1600 transaxle the Bus would wheel stand, with my modified transaxle (details on site) it will pull 200kph instead and is cheaper to run, less fuel used. It's been off the road for two months now but is due for a makeover as it nolonger gets used offroad so I want the body tidied up. Feel free to ask any questions on the conversion.
Cheers
Steve
P.S Is not strictly a Rover V8 but a Leyland V8, Australian only 4.4lt (270cid) with 190hp standard, mine has about 230hp
Just signed up to this site today and am loving it already. Anyway, this Rover conversion is one I've done. Steve C mentioned my website at http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/garage/1811 so some of you may have seen it. It's a pretty easy conversion and being in Australia I decided to mount the radiator on the front behind the bullbar although I am looking at mounting it under the front between the rails and getting rid of the bar altogether. I had the same problem with engine length so I took the water pump off and made a plate with an adapter like a thermostat housing to run to a remote water pump. It works just fine even on really hot days but I'm thinking about running an electric pump from Davies Craig instead as it means less belts and less pipe work.
Anyway, with a 1600 transaxle the Bus would wheel stand, with my modified transaxle (details on site) it will pull 200kph instead and is cheaper to run, less fuel used. It's been off the road for two months now but is due for a makeover as it nolonger gets used offroad so I want the body tidied up. Feel free to ask any questions on the conversion.
Cheers
Steve
P.S Is not strictly a Rover V8 but a Leyland V8, Australian only 4.4lt (270cid) with 190hp standard, mine has about 230hp
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Hi Steve
Welcome aboard, the shoptalk forums is where I spend most of my time online.
Regards Steve C (Carter)
Welcome aboard, the shoptalk forums is where I spend most of my time online.
Regards Steve C (Carter)
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Monster
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It's still the inlet on the front of the engine (now rear) for the water that gets in the way, it could probably be made slimmer but the rear is only open about an inch and it lets the hot air out so I haven't really worried about it. Of course the rear scoops would let a lot of air out but I plan to use those to feed a cold air box for the carb at some point with remote filters as having the engine back there with no tin work to seal it means a lot of dust gets in after its chucked up by the front wheels.
If you get rid of the number plate housing and bring it out level with the rest of the lid it may just close.
To fit the air filter the lid in the rear is raised about 1 inch, which is fine as since it's a camper the matress is shaped to go around it ie thick at the edges. With a remote filter you may get away without doing this but it would be tight. Also my engine has a wider V than the smaller Rover engines so my inlet manifold may sit a little lower in the valley which in turn would bring the air filter down a bit so check that out also.
The oil filter stays where it was and just fits below the rear valance, my rear valance is removeable though and pulled backwards 1 inch. I'm sure the oil filter would still fit if it wasnt moved back at all though.
Cheers
Steve
If you get rid of the number plate housing and bring it out level with the rest of the lid it may just close.
To fit the air filter the lid in the rear is raised about 1 inch, which is fine as since it's a camper the matress is shaped to go around it ie thick at the edges. With a remote filter you may get away without doing this but it would be tight. Also my engine has a wider V than the smaller Rover engines so my inlet manifold may sit a little lower in the valley which in turn would bring the air filter down a bit so check that out also.
The oil filter stays where it was and just fits below the rear valance, my rear valance is removeable though and pulled backwards 1 inch. I'm sure the oil filter would still fit if it wasnt moved back at all though.
Cheers
Steve
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Monster,
What is holding your engine lid open?
I am about to do the conversion but I want the engine lid to shut completely. I'll be removing the numberplate apperture as the van is going for a smooth look if this helps. Have you moved the oil filer?
Mike Ghia
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What is holding your engine lid open?
I am about to do the conversion but I want the engine lid to shut completely. I'll be removing the numberplate apperture as the van is going for a smooth look if this helps. Have you moved the oil filer?
Mike Ghia
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Steve, great. Thanks for the info. Also....
Which bottom pulley are you running? i.e. how many belts could you run from it?
Where did you get the remote waterpump from? as I will need to do the same... is it from some production car or an aftermarket item?
Thanks
Mike Ghia
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Which bottom pulley are you running? i.e. how many belts could you run from it?
Where did you get the remote waterpump from? as I will need to do the same... is it from some production car or an aftermarket item?
Thanks
Mike Ghia
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Monster
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The bottom pulley runs two belts, one for the water pump and one for the alternator, I think it's the standard one as it used to run the fan/water pump and alternator, or maybe it was air-con on one and everything else on the other, not sure now.
There's a company in the US that make a remote water pump for the 350 Chev but from what I remember it was expensive. My water pump is a home madeish job with the front half of a toyota pump, a plate on the back and then another thermostat housing. It's a bit messy looking but it does work just fine and has for ages. Basically take the water pump off the engine, make two plates the same, one for the engine one for the back of the pump and attach a thermostat housing to each with radiator hose between them and there you go, a remote pump, mounting is a little harder though as you need to find a good spot for the backets.
I'd probably go with the Davies Craig electric pump now though, that's if it's been proved to be reliable. There's even a controller that will automatically adjust it's speed based on water temperature
Pretty neat Eh!!
Hope that helps
Cheers
Steve
There's a company in the US that make a remote water pump for the 350 Chev but from what I remember it was expensive. My water pump is a home madeish job with the front half of a toyota pump, a plate on the back and then another thermostat housing. It's a bit messy looking but it does work just fine and has for ages. Basically take the water pump off the engine, make two plates the same, one for the engine one for the back of the pump and attach a thermostat housing to each with radiator hose between them and there you go, a remote pump, mounting is a little harder though as you need to find a good spot for the backets.
I'd probably go with the Davies Craig electric pump now though, that's if it's been proved to be reliable. There's even a controller that will automatically adjust it's speed based on water temperature
Pretty neat Eh!!Hope that helps
Cheers
Steve
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Hi
I bought a Davies Craig electric water pump and its on the list of things to fit. You can read more about them here http://www.daviescraig.com.au/
A friend with 350 chev powered Sigma uses one and swears by it but Autospeed http://www.autospeed.com/
hinted at problems with them during testing.
Regards Steve C
I bought a Davies Craig electric water pump and its on the list of things to fit. You can read more about them here http://www.daviescraig.com.au/
A friend with 350 chev powered Sigma uses one and swears by it but Autospeed http://www.autospeed.com/
hinted at problems with them during testing.
Regards Steve C
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I haven't had it confirmed, but I was told that the Renault 19 had an auxiliary electric coolant pump.
Demon Tweeks now stock the Davies Craig unit, they also do a smaller booster pump.
Rich
Demon Tweeks now stock the Davies Craig unit, they also do a smaller booster pump.
Rich
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Monster
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Just remember where the 350 Chev remote pump was from. There's a US company called Renegade Hybrids who make V8 kits for Porsches, one of the kits is a 350 Chev and includes a remote water pump, haven't had time to totally check out the site to find it but I know it's on there somewhere, I think the 914 kit uses it.
The site is at http://www.renegadehybrids.com
The site is at http://www.renegadehybrids.com