putting a waterboxer in a bug

trevor_brady · Post by **trevor_brady** » Tue Jan 08, 2002 6:54 am

Hi all, besides the radiator end of things, what is required in the line of a clutch/flywheel to put a waterboxer engine from a vanagon into a '73 swingaxle beetle?
Will the gearbox need to be upgraded? What starter should be used?

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PapaG · Post by **PapaG** » Tue Jan 08, 2002 12:48 pm

Search in the Conversion and Type 4 forums.
Waterboxer, Wasserboxer, and Oxyboxer (waterboxer converted to air cooled).
Basicly a Type4 Flywheel, 200, 210 or 215mm with the Type1 pilot bearing installed in the flywheel. Some can use the STD starter, some the automatic starter. FAT makes a flywheel, Jake Raby has flywheels and I am sure others do.

Mine 2.1 is going into a choptopped 68 squareback. I am sure others will post.
Marco the steem engine, Steve C and a few others have done this.

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69 Fastback Auto

liberty · Post by **liberty** » Tue Jan 08, 2002 10:16 pm

i need to follow this post be cause i want to do the same to my notch.but i was going to wait and get a irs rear frame .

goatmaster187 · Post by **goatmaster187** » Tue Jan 08, 2002 11:49 pm

If I were you I'd swap in a Bus tranny as well. You might have to cut away at the firewall and the rear apron to make everthing clear. If you go with fuel injection you'll need to run all the associated components that go with that, you'll also need to run a return line to the gas tank. By the way a 73' should be IRS.

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 3:08 am

Hi
I fitted one to my super bug. Whar sort of tranny you needs depends on what you wish to do with the car. I ran with a stock 4.125 bug box for some time. As already said its much the same as fitting a Type 4 engine into a bug. I prefer to use the 2.1 cooling system over the 1.9. I 1st used a stock starter but i came across a semi auto starter and have fitted it. If you need to ask me anything more post here, that way everyone gets to learn a few things.
Steve C

trevor_brady · Post by **trevor_brady** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 10:12 am

Thanks for the replys guys, I'll run a search on previous posts. BTW, Goatmaster, only the 1302,03 and semi-automatic bugs got IRS in Ireland, and I believe most of Europe. Mine is a '73 1200, with ball joint torsion bar front end, and swing axle rear. Not trying to get smart with you, just for your information

thanks again...

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goatmaster187 · Post by **goatmaster187** » Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:11 pm

Got ya, here in the US I think the change-over happened in 69'. IRS would be a nice addition to your car though. The conversion isn't all that difficult either. I did it on my 65'. It took about an afternoons work. If you want to see some pics there are some at the Yahoo group that I moderate, "Boosted Reality"
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Brutus · Post by **Brutus** » Thu Jan 10, 2002 6:05 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by trevor_brady:
<B>Thanks for the replys guys, I'll run a search on previous posts. BTW, Goatmaster, only the 1302,03 and semi-automatic bugs got IRS in Ireland, and I believe most of Europe. Mine is a '73 1200, with ball joint torsion bar front end, and swing axle rear. Not trying to get smart with you, just for your information

thanks again...

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trevor_brady · Post by **trevor_brady** » Thu Jan 10, 2002 6:57 am

I've uncovered some useful information from this guy's website:

http://www.tangen.nu/1600tl.html

he's got a type3, but used a type1 IRS gearbox, so it should work just like installing a waterboxer into a bug.

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spongeworthy · Post by **spongeworthy** » Sun Jan 13, 2002 2:44 pm

Hey everybody:

Does anyone know is a wasserboxer crankshaft pulley will fit on a type 1 crankshaft.

I have a performance T1 engine that needs a pulley with an additional belt groove for an accessory I may be installing.

I saw a vanagon in a junk yard the other day and it had a pulley with 3 grooves.

My case have been machines for a sand seal and I figure this Vanagon pulley might work with some modification.

spongeworthy.