Pictures of members Motors

marco the steem engine · Mon May 14, 2001 3:45 pm

Here are some photos of my car and motor,
hope you like!
The motor is a 2.1 waterboxer fed with 48 IDA's and makes 170 bhp/5700rpm daily driver
and Who thought T1/T4 the best place is somewere in the middle T25!!!!

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Tue May 15, 2001 5:52 pm

Hi
Well done. Nice to see someone else went the T25 route. http://www.clubvw.org.au/steve.htm
Regards Steve C

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Tue May 15, 2001 6:39 pm

I went the traditional route with a Type 1 1904cc engine. Checkout http://www.glenn-ring.com/beetle.html

Superman · Post by **Superman** » Thu May 24, 2001 3:59 am

Hey Glenn! last time we emailed you were having the Berg 5 tranny built up. How did it turn out?

My project (73 1303 mit 83 GTI) can be seen here: www.superbeetlesonly.com
click the "My 1303 GTI" button

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu May 24, 2001 5:10 am

I got the tranny back from Gary Berg and it works perfectly now. He told me that the guy who built it the first time really screwed it up and he was the cause of the problem. The only thing left to do is change the shift rod bushing. A pain in the A$$, but it needs to be done.

jesus · Post by **jesus** » Sun May 27, 2001 4:57 pm

Hi Here are some photos of my car and motor,
The motor is a 2.1 waterboxer in a 55 Oval and is a daily driver.Cooler is a Alfa 33

Regards Jesper

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Mon May 28, 2001 6:59 am

Hi Jesper
Another smart guy with a wasserboxer, good to see. It looks like you used the 1.9 L cooling system. A lot of people might like to see your radiator setup and marcos as well.
Regards Steve C

marco the steem engine · Mon May 28, 2001 4:20 pm

Hear's some more photo's of the motor in my garage trying out the wolf3D EMS, I'll get some more Photo's of my cooling system soon!

YELLO · Post by **YELLO** » Tue May 29, 2001 12:25 am

Bug-geo....this is what happens when you have to much time on your hands, I did this conversion a couple of years ago...now with gas prices the way they are, I am glad!.
Engine is mated with stock vw Transaxle via...home-made adapter and flywheel...gets me about 36-40 mpg. engine is a '91 3cyl - 1000 cc Geo Metro powerhouse (Not!)...puts out about 55 horses...good enough for general transportation. future improvments will include relocating the radiator(now next to motor), and a better carb setup, I have tweaked the solex the best i can, but still has a flat spot.
plus's - gas mileage,noise,and the benefeit of a rolling sauna in the winter.

PS:I hear a VR6 calling my name.......

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Superman · Post by **Superman** » Tue May 29, 2001 3:08 am

Here is the thread to discuss cooling systems:
http://shoptalkforums.com/bbs/NonCGI/Fo ... 00011.html

jesus · Post by **jesus** » Tue May 29, 2001 5:10 pm

HI Steve and all U WASSERBOXERS!!
I have only a few old pics of my
Motor and radiator.
And yes i used the 1.9 waterpump
because i did not want to cut in the car.
The radiator is a Alfa Romeo 33 it fits
perfect.The water is led thru boat hoses
in the heater channels.Heater is a VW POLO
and works perfect. I'll get some more Pics of my Motor and cooling system soon!
Jesper

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Wed May 30, 2001 7:51 am

Hi Jesper & Marco
I used the 2.1 cooling system. I needed to make a cut into the rear luggage area for the thermostat and I made a new tube from the water pump to the thermostat housing.
Marco, did you mount the raditor on the side of the motor like in the photo you attached? When I pulled my motor apart to decompress it for a turbo we had a hard time getting valve springs that didnt coil bind even with the standard cam, Marco did you have any problems in this area with your Berg springs.
Regards Steve C

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Wed May 30, 2001 7:52 am

Hi this was in another post and I thought you may have missed it

Wasserboxer in a Beetle.

The Wasserboxer has received some bad press for headstud problems; coolant leaks and
assorted other woes. These problems seem to occur when proper VW servicing
techniques are not used.

The Wasserboxer motor in my VW Beetle has been looked after as far correct coolant is
concerned; I also use distilled water mixed with genuine VW coolant. I fitted an Oettinger
85° thermostat instead of the standard 87°. These don't seem to be available anymore
so I have modified a Mercedes one to fit. The top part of the thermostat is the same as
the VW one, but the lower bypass part has a larger diameter flange. This can easily be
made the correct diameter by first marking out the correct diameter circle with a pair of
dividers and the grind the flange down to the marked circle. I also got rid of water-cooled
oil-cooler as I have heard that they can fail. I'm running an air cooled oil cooler with a
Setrab thermo block at the front of the radiator.

As far as the rest of the motor goes it is extremely reliable, I give my bug heaps. I have
bent one Scat pushrod (I'm now running Berg ones) and had 2 water pumps fail in about
100,000 Ks since 1988 and have had a few coolant hoses fail. My bug is also in constant
state of improvement, so some things are always changing.

The Wasserboxers use 2 styles of cooling systems, basically the 1.9 and 2.1 litre style. I
prefer the 2.1 style.

Fitting the motor is much the same as fitting a type 4 motor, same style of flywheel. The
thermostat housing which sits above # 3 exhaust port needs to have some body
clearancing. The water hose that runs from the water pump to the thermostat housing
needs to be modified at the water pump end. It basically would run straight through the
left-hand rear bumper bracket. Any Beetle exhaust can be used, #1 & # 4 exhaust
flanges need to be rotated 90°. In the engine bay I used basically the whole Wasserboxer
cooling system and condensed it to fit. You will need a steel coolant ring main as the
plastic one cant be shortened easily.

The coolant runs to and from the front of the car via 1.5-inch stainless steel tubes.
These follow the chassis bolts along the bottom of the heater channels. I have just
upgraded my radiator with a modified Ford Transit radiator. After some gentle prompting
from a fellow list user MARTINSR, yesterday I went out and bought an after market
thermo fan from Davies Craig http://www.daviescraig.com.au/. It's meant to be used for
a 5 litre V8 and pumps 2120 CFM, so far its working really well, we are having 40 ° + days
down here at the moment. I previously used a BMW radiator and Audi 100 thermo fan.
Cool air is brought into the radiator through an A/C louvered front apron. I removed the
deformation plate at the front of the chassis to allow more air in. I had to also remove
the spare wheel well and I just left the rounded edge for a bit of extra strength, I
supplemented the spare wheel wells strength with angle steel. My radiator is around 550
mm across and 450 mm deep on the cooling surface, it's actually a little wider where the
tanks are on the side. The radiator actually sits on a U shaped holder right down on the
chassis and comes very close to the under bonnet. I fabricated a sheetmetal alloy
housing to guide the cooling air in and let the heated air exit over the front end. I
basically used some angle aluminum for the edges and then filled this in with very thin
aluminum sheet. In case you hadn't already realised my bug is a super. I have seen
radiators fitted to standard bugs but I have no experience with this. My spare wheel sits
on top my fuel tank on a bracket attached to the strut brace.

Original heater channels were retained and warm air is directed from a Toyota troop
carrier heater core under the rear seat to the interior via early Audi 100 brake cooling
fans. I have used the rear seat heater cable to operate heater shut off valve.

My Kombi motor was purchased new in 1988 and is 2.1 litre its DJ engine number type
10.5:1 compression, 112 BHP type. I original ran the motor with dual webbers Berg cam.
In preparation for a turbo the motor has just been decompressed to 8.0:1 and the cam
changed back to standard. 1.4 berg rockers are used.

Regards Steve Carter

Richard Olafsson · Post by **Richard Olafsson** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 5:00 am

Steve,
Do you have to rely on the cooling fan at all during normal running?
My system is OK for the current British weather but I am thinking about getting a proper custom unit built for me for the front which will mount on the front of the torsion beam.
I've also been looking at the Camaro/Trans-Am style of guiding air into the radiator from underneath.
Cheers,
Rich http://www.ricola.co.uk

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Mon Jun 04, 2001 6:22 am

Hi
My fan hardly ever comes on except on 40 + celcius days. Im using a modified Merc thermostat. If you are intersted about how to modify one let me know. Last summer i fooled around with a scoop and it really dropped the temp on freeways. Its winter now down here so I will muck around some more with cooling scoops then.
Regards Steve C