Bus box placement in a beetle? 4-speed or berg 5-speed.

[-Alex77-]

Is there anyway to put 002/091 bus box to beetle, either 4-speed or berg 5-speed, WITHOUT moving engine back and up?

My car is a street car and i would like to have all stock tinware.

[Theo]

Yep, used the Berg Mount. Expensive.

[-Alex77-]

Everything nice and strong is always expensive Porsche 915 trans adapting parts from bug@5-speed are also quite expensive.

[Ol'fogasaurus]

You didn’t mention swing or IRS sedan but if you try it in a ’68 or earlier then you have to go with converting it to an IRS also (unless you want a reduction boy bus transaxle).

As far as I know when installing the bus box into a sedan: there are two basic ways and neither are totally clean. The 10° mount has the engine sitting at a slight angle but the nose cone is sitting in the tunnel and will connect up to the shift rod. It requires welding of the forward transaxle mount to the torsion tube.

The other way, transaxle level puts the nose cone above the rear cross-piece on the pan and you have shifter connection problems. Either a dropped connector for the shifter which gives the shift rod a lot of monkey motion (the lower part of the connector will swing like a clock pendulum) or you add a sand rail style of shifter box to the top of the tunnel and connect up that way.

There is a third way which is using a pair of universals in the shift rod but that also means that you compromise the tunnel by putting a hole in it.

Basically, the problem lies with the larger ring gear which raises the transaxle about 3”.

Lee

[Theo]

My bus box had a third party intermediate housing installed that allows for a bug nose cone on the 002 bus box. Bolts straight in with the shift rod in the tunnel using the Berg mount. Looks great and works fine. Expensive.

T