Type lV Main Bearings Are Back
- gaston
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Re: Type lV Main Bearings Are Back
Who needs STD? I let alignbore my case and fix the main bearing area of the case that the case doesn't get hurt. If you inspect a standard case after years of use, specially bus cases they show not a good face to face area at the nainsook bearings. Seems to be that there' s a little twist (sorry for my bad english) and that the cases rim each other that they never get the right pressure for the bearings -> oil pressure drops, engine damage.
So first thing is to check this area. Than you need align bore the crank bearings in the case to have it in proper shape. After doing this you haven't anymore standard in the cases (outer diameter). Inner diameter is still available ad STD.
So first thing is to check this area. Than you need align bore the crank bearings in the case to have it in proper shape. After doing this you haven't anymore standard in the cases (outer diameter). Inner diameter is still available ad STD.
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Who ever that company is, I´m ready to order 10 sets right now, to get them and check if they hold specs. If the do not, (and frankly I fear they do not, given the previus history of Silverline) I ALSO want the right to return them at no cost.
As others have menthioned earlier it has usually taken 2-3 sets to make one proper set. Thats a no go, and ONLY something you´re doing when you do not have any options.
T
As others have menthioned earlier it has usually taken 2-3 sets to make one proper set. Thats a no go, and ONLY something you´re doing when you do not have any options.
T
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Which part is not understood ?
And due to being shot in the head, I now have memory loss
and have forgotten which vendors will be carrying the bearings.
And for some reason now, nothing that I can't put my finger on,
it feels like a cup with a hole and the stress is just leaking away...
Then what are you guys going to do after you shoot all the messengers ...
And I am curious, why shoot the messenger ?Type 4 Unleashed wrote: a company that I have no association too what so ever
And due to being shot in the head, I now have memory loss
and have forgotten which vendors will be carrying the bearings.
And for some reason now, nothing that I can't put my finger on,
it feels like a cup with a hole and the stress is just leaking away...

Then what are you guys going to do after you shoot all the messengers ...

Richard
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- gaston
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Re: Type lV Main Bearings Are Back
It's not the intention to shoot the messenger at all.
But if the first reports are true for the whole batch than it's a nogo. If that happen the company which ordered the batch has a couple of problems:
- they've to return the money to buyers
- they've a bad reputation in the business
- they had no quality assurance in place or not ordered with good specs, so there's no project management behind
It's nice to see someone go ahead and try to fix problems with parts end of live.
But there should be placed an order (by a group of machinig companies/ tuners) with Mahle or KS to let them run a batch of bearings.
But if the first reports are true for the whole batch than it's a nogo. If that happen the company which ordered the batch has a couple of problems:
- they've to return the money to buyers
- they've a bad reputation in the business
- they had no quality assurance in place or not ordered with good specs, so there's no project management behind
It's nice to see someone go ahead and try to fix problems with parts end of live.
But there should be placed an order (by a group of machinig companies/ tuners) with Mahle or KS to let them run a batch of bearings.
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Re: Type lV Main Bearings Are Back
I have a box of old silverlines downstairs, they are quite old and the coating is super dark and splotchy, like its made of lead. wether that is due ot age or how they came from the factory, i have no idea, these are porbably from the 80s. I think they are std/10s. I can't offer to measure em cause I lent out my mics to a friend who is building and engine, but maybe someday later. My only thoughts on the silverlinse are that the box looks cheap (a terrible way to judge, but opioions and assholes) and the bearings look even worse, but that could simply be due to their age.
note, the above are NOS, ooold stock, not the new ones everyone is curious about.
note, the above are NOS, ooold stock, not the new ones everyone is curious about.
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Re: Type lV Main Bearings Are Back
What reports ????? Reports from who ?????
This has been my point all along, people running off at the mouth about something they know nothing about.
As of tuesday I am one of the 1st people to see the Newly Manfactured Silverline Type lV Main Bearings, they are boxed like Mahle main bearings the box is a Yellow color with Silverline and rest of the printing on the box in White, let me repeat this for the mentally impared, these are not NOS they are Newly Manufactured Type lV Main Bearings from Silverline . NO ONE has them yet NO ONE, the ones that were shipped tuesday to Europe haven't even got there yet, let alone cleared Customs, but theres already reports made of their quality, and the company now has a bad rep.
I am done with this.
This has been my point all along, people running off at the mouth about something they know nothing about.
As of tuesday I am one of the 1st people to see the Newly Manfactured Silverline Type lV Main Bearings, they are boxed like Mahle main bearings the box is a Yellow color with Silverline and rest of the printing on the box in White, let me repeat this for the mentally impared, these are not NOS they are Newly Manufactured Type lV Main Bearings from Silverline . NO ONE has them yet NO ONE, the ones that were shipped tuesday to Europe haven't even got there yet, let alone cleared Customs, but theres already reports made of their quality, and the company now has a bad rep.
I am done with this.
Richard
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Re: Type lV Main Bearings Are Back
I bought a set Brazil Mahle STD/.25 today from the local vw shop. I'm hoping these will work for my build. I plan to stroke my my engine as well I'm hoping I don't have to align bore my case otherwise these won't work.
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Richard, I thank you for the heads up...
It's not your fault...Silverline earned their reputation long ago.
I hope they are trying to change it, and all the new run (and future runs) are in spec, or at least on the right sides of the specs.
If that happens, they'll be heroes.
I'll wait and see.
I have personally only ever had one set cross my bench, which I was lucky to be able to return for credit...
It's not your fault...Silverline earned their reputation long ago.
I hope they are trying to change it, and all the new run (and future runs) are in spec, or at least on the right sides of the specs.
If that happens, they'll be heroes.
I'll wait and see.
I have personally only ever had one set cross my bench, which I was lucky to be able to return for credit...
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- sideshow
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Yeah, thanks for Paul Revere'ing this product.
I agree it is too early to tell.
Maybe Silverline will be just the opposite of EMPI, once crap but now great.
I agree it is too early to tell.
Maybe Silverline will be just the opposite of EMPI, once crap but now great.
Yeah some may call it overkill, but you can't have too much overkill.
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Carefull. Empi may be great on a few products. But the majority is still sub standard.sideshow wrote:
Maybe Silverline will be just the opposite of EMPI, once crap but now great.
But they (Silverline) may have stepped up and done it properly. That´s why we REALLY would like to have some sets to evaluate on.
Problem is, burnt child wohnt go back to the fire.
T
- gaston
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Go back to page 1 and read the second Comment of Don. Read similar comments on others forums. So time will tell..Type 4 Unleashed wrote:What reports ????? Reports from who ?????
This has been my point all along, people running off at the mouth about something they know nothing about.
As of tuesday I am one of the 1st people to see the Newly Manfactured Silverline Type lV Main Bearings, they are boxed like Mahle main bearings the box is a Yellow color with Silverline and rest of the printing on the box in White, let me repeat this for the mentally impared, these are not NOS they are Newly Manufactured Type lV Main Bearings from Silverline . NO ONE has them yet NO ONE, the ones that were shipped tuesday to Europe haven't even got there yet, let alone cleared Customs, but theres already reports made of their quality, and the company now has a bad rep.
I am done with this.
- doc
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Looks like we'll have to wait til someone has the opportunity to measure and build. C'mon, Richard, build something new!!
I always have high hopes for stuff like this. After all, some manufacturer is committing the dollars and time to manufacture a goodly quantity of parts in different sizes and keep them inventoried. It's hard to believe that they wouldn't take the trouble to get the specs right on something as critical as bearings.
My Dad, long time in the consumer goods business, used to say the American housewife was the smartest shopper in the world. You can only fool her once. If the laundry detergent doesn't clean clothes, she tells everyone she knows and she never comes back for a second box. I suspect the T4 crowd shares the same mentality.
Good luck, Silverline.
doc
I always have high hopes for stuff like this. After all, some manufacturer is committing the dollars and time to manufacture a goodly quantity of parts in different sizes and keep them inventoried. It's hard to believe that they wouldn't take the trouble to get the specs right on something as critical as bearings.
My Dad, long time in the consumer goods business, used to say the American housewife was the smartest shopper in the world. You can only fool her once. If the laundry detergent doesn't clean clothes, she tells everyone she knows and she never comes back for a second box. I suspect the T4 crowd shares the same mentality.
Good luck, Silverline.
doc
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Well saiddoc wrote: My Dad, long time in the consumer goods business, used to say the American housewife was the smartest shopper in the world. You can only fool her once. If the laundry detergent doesn't clean clothes, she tells everyone she knows and she never comes back for a second box. I suspect the T4 crowd shares the same mentality.
Good luck, Silverline.
doc
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Maybe we need some more girls into our hobby. Then they can bye one oilpump, one cam, one set of lifters, etc.
Then we can just lean back and wait for the sellers to go bankroped when the parts dont fit and work. Instead we keep bying them ?
Then we can just lean back and wait for the sellers to go bankroped when the parts dont fit and work. Instead we keep bying them ?
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The 1st batch was limited quantities to everyone, but their already on ebay and in the discription it says
"Type 4 standard size is becoming very hard to find and we have one set right here!!"
But then they don't tell you that there will be a lot more available with in the next couple of weeks,
and won't be hard to find any more. Will be interesting on how much they go for ?

"Type 4 standard size is becoming very hard to find and we have one set right here!!"
But then they don't tell you that there will be a lot more available with in the next couple of weeks,
and won't be hard to find any more. Will be interesting on how much they go for ?

Richard
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“Have you ever noticed how some people never
have the money to do it right, but can always
find the money to do it twice ?”
EMW
“Have you ever noticed how some people never
have the money to do it right, but can always
find the money to do it twice ?”