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Alright I got everything squared away and have parts ready

Here are the raw parts
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And a mounted VR sensor on the bracket for the Type1, it has a ton of crank axis adjustment for pulley variances as well as adjustment for different cases.
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Type4 wheels are $40 shipped
Type1 wheels with bracket are $45 shipped

At this point I am still working on the total Type1 package including a machined pulley and a VR sensor. I may end up having pulleys made for me. I should know more on that next week. And I am looking for somewhere that will sell me a bulk of VR sensor and hope to pass the discount on. The VR sensor is off of a 1996 Mazda Miata. I'm sure it is in other models also.
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Sweet dude!
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How do you attach the wheel for the type 1 setup? Would it work with a steel Gene Berg pulley?

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Well I'm in for one type-4 wheel. I have a type-4 pancake cooled currently on the stand, Ford parts (pickup, OEM wheel, packs, wire, EDIS-4 and even the fuel collision switch).
Yeah some may call it overkill, but you can't have too much overkill.
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TIMMA wrote:How do you attach the wheel for the type 1 setup? Would it work with a steel Gene Berg pulley?

--Tim
Hey Tim, the pulley need to be machined to accept the trigger wheel. It may not be as sensitive as with a aluminum pulley. But the advantage of the steel wheel is the trigger can be tig welded in place. In the Aluminum pulley it needs to be epoxied in.
sideshow wrote:Well I'm in for one type-4 wheel. I have a type-4 pancake cooled currently on the stand, Ford parts (pickup, OEM wheel, packs, wire, EDIS-4 and even the fuel collision switch).
Great! I will be in touch for payment. I would like to send everyones out at the same time.
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Is it just me, or is the TIV wheel missing it's missing tooth?

Or am I missing something?
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Turbinepowered wrote:Is it just me, or is the TIV wheel missing it's missing tooth?

Or am I missing something?
From Mario in the other thread...
The type 4 wheel has all the teeth still on it. That way the end user has a choice for sensor placement. Once the sensor is placed, mark the tooth you don't need and grind it off.
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Thanks Joe! It just makes it universal is all.
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Oh! Okay, that makes sense. It was just bugging me, I thought I knew this DIS stuff... :lol:
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Awsome Mario. That makes for a really clean setup.
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WickedWagens wrote:Awsome Mario. That makes for a really clean setup.
Yeah, on my car when I was at the track last I had a couple people ask how I was triggering ignition, they saw I didn't have a dizzy and you can't really see this when it's installed :twisted: You can thank Klatin for the great idea!

So as it stands i still have
(4) Type 1
(5) Type 4

Get them while there hot ;)

And just to clarify, the type 4 wheels are not meant for pancake cooled motors.
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And just to clarify, the type 4 wheels are not meant for pancake cooled motors.
Hmmm yes, I'm running into that issue now with the t4 wheel I have, possibly same pattern source.

Looks like I can maybe take a mm or so off the OD and have it work.

But...the "T1" wheel might work just peachy on the back of a stock T4 fan...
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RE: type-4 wheel pancake cooled
Well I just spent some quality time and I don't that style trigger wheel will do me any good. The blower shroud to case bosses are in the same airspace.

However I am still intrigued enough with the type-1 ring to attempt mounting it to a steel pulley and like that miata pickup.
Yeah some may call it overkill, but you can't have too much overkill.
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sideshow wrote:RE: type-4 wheel pancake cooled
Well I just spent some quality time and I don't that style trigger wheel will do me any good. The blower shroud to case bosses are in the same airspace.

However I am still intrigued enough with the type-1 ring to attempt mounting it to a steel pulley and like that miata pickup.
Yeah, I actually measured it today, it's about 1/2" to large OD for pancake cooling.

I still think the T1 ring on the back of the fan would fly, have the OD handy?
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Piledriver wrote:
sideshow wrote:RE: type-4 wheel pancake cooled
Well I just spent some quality time and I don't that style trigger wheel will do me any good. The blower shroud to case bosses are in the same airspace.

However I am still intrigued enough with the type-1 ring to attempt mounting it to a steel pulley and like that miata pickup.
Yeah, I actually measured it today, it's about 1/2" to large OD for pancake cooling.

I still think the T1 ring on the back of the fan would fly, have the OD handy?
The OD of the type 1 is 6.525"

What would the OD need to be for a pancake motor? And what would your sensor orientation be? Maybe the nexttime around I could make those also. I am also thinking of smaller wheels for power pulley sizes.

@Sideshow - so you would like the type 1 instead?
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