Performance FI intake for type-3?

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Max Welton
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Performance FI intake for type-3?

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I'm bored.

The fastback is waiting for the paint guy and it won't be ready for the engine till mid-January.

The plan has been to use the 1776 Megasquirt engine I used in my old 68 squareback (RIP). It's all freshened up and ready to go.

But sitting in my type-1 Ghia is a 2110 long-block that hasn't seen first fire yet. What if I dressed it up as a type-3 engine?

There are a few ways to come up with a 1-1/2" type-3 exhaust that should keep a mild 2110 evacuated so I'm not too worried about that. What I don't have an idea for is an FI intake that will support 100-130 HP. The stock intake the 1776 is using is clearly too small.

I really want to keep everything under the engine cover so only low profile options are on the table. About all I got is to start with the flange from a type-3 FI intake runner, replace the tubing with larger tubing fabbed up from some mandrel bends ... and some sort of plenum and generic TB. I have no idea how to size any of that for the application.

Ideas?

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If you look at the T3 Buses with 2.1 L wbx engines you well see that you dont have to fab alot
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AFAIK there was never a T3 bus.

But a WBX intake ... OK, I'm interested. What did the 2.1 WBX make as far as HP? Power follows flow.

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T3 is what we call them in Germany.
Busses built from 1979-1999/91
Vanagons
Dont mix a T3 (bus) with a type3 ....a lot of people get that wrong....
112hp .
The intake port is much bigger, but will bolt to a type1 head.
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You got it :D
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I see!

No way that would clear the engine cover in a type-3 car. :(
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This might do ... https://foxinjections.com/collections/d ... -40mm-dcnf

I had DCNF carburetors at one point. They fit ... barely. With very short manifolds.

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I had to cut down the manifold flanges and also use spacers to drop the subframe a little. Not ideal.

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According to their site
We use relatively popular mechanical interfaces for the throttle potentiometer. Popular types are; Colvern CP17 series (as supplied by Jenvey), Wabash 971-0002 and (via fitting kits) throttle pots from Novotechnik, Penny & Giles, Marelli and Weber. A number of production car throttle pots (e.g. Rover K series) will also fit directly to the bodies.
The Colvern CP17 throttle potentiometer may be mounted to either end of most installations and spindle rotation is typically 82o.
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and what about the "High flow end casting" from cb perf with a home-made central manifold and a single throttle?
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7367.htm
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DRED wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:21 am and what about the "High flow end casting" from cb perf with a home-made central manifold and a single throttle?
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7367.htm
Make sure you get this set though instead, since they are machined for injectors.
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7362.htm
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you're welcome, that's what i was thinking about..
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Michael1 wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:26 pm T3 is what we call them in Germany.
Busses built from 1979-1999/91
Bulli?
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Chip Birks wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:08 am
DRED wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:21 am and what about the "High flow end casting" from cb perf with a home-made central manifold and a single throttle?
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7367.htm
Make sure you get this set though instead, since they are machined for injectors.
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7362.htm
Not much good on a type-3 engine though.

Max
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