So I'm finally getting my '78 Westy going. I have a Headflowmasters 2.0 with solid lifters and a Web Cam 73 grind.."426/.426 262°/262° 224°/224° 73 N/A N/A 00-472
Good overall performance for engines with stock fuel-injection. Designed for mechanical lifters. See part #00-265."
Situation is that I'm not going to use FI, instead I'll be using Delloto 40s. Blackline Racing just went through them and built them for the above engine specs.
So what is my best option for a distributor? BTW most of my driving is at sea level.
which distributor?
- Clatter
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Re: which distributor?
This will be interesting to approach..
One thing about FI on a bus is it's easy driving in traffic and around town in stop-n-go.
Especially with more cam..
First/easiest solution is vacuum advance - not sure your Dells have a vacuum port?
Having two sets of Webers done by Ace/Blackline now - I remember this port wasn't something they seem to like to do.
It's scary to install your own vacuum port, but not super difficult.
Takes bravery and a steady hand, and I've never gone there but seen it done.
At that point you would ideally find an early Mallory with vacuum advance,
You would be more likely to win the lottery..
After that, i have had really good success with the stock 205 distributor, but re-curved (bend stops) to give 12 initial,
28 total hose off and much more than that hose on.
If no vacuum port is available/creatable you might take a similar tact.
Centrifugal-only Mallory distributors are still out there.
They pop up time-to-time on TOS.
Use the grey/grey springs and adjust stops to 12/28.
it's a good solid approach.
I'm running an 050 on a Webered cammed 2056 motor right now, and despite it's reputation as a good type 4 distributor it's not impressing.
Maybe it's that particular distributor, but as for centrifugal-only stock distributors it's pretty much the only one.
There's some German 009s out there that might be re-curved a bit, and I've used them in a pinch,
but,
still,
probably not what what you want to do.
Best at that point to try out the 123.
Never run one myself but they seem a good way to go.
if you could get the right program loaded up in one of those it is supposed to be all that and more.
I'd still likely carry a re-curved/timed 009 with points under the back seat on road trips just in case..
Hope this helps.
Lots of ways to go, and it depends upon what you can find, and how hard you want to work at getting it to behave down low.
A camper with carbs and a cam can be cantankerous...
One thing about FI on a bus is it's easy driving in traffic and around town in stop-n-go.
Especially with more cam..
First/easiest solution is vacuum advance - not sure your Dells have a vacuum port?
Having two sets of Webers done by Ace/Blackline now - I remember this port wasn't something they seem to like to do.
It's scary to install your own vacuum port, but not super difficult.
Takes bravery and a steady hand, and I've never gone there but seen it done.
At that point you would ideally find an early Mallory with vacuum advance,
You would be more likely to win the lottery..
After that, i have had really good success with the stock 205 distributor, but re-curved (bend stops) to give 12 initial,
28 total hose off and much more than that hose on.
If no vacuum port is available/creatable you might take a similar tact.
Centrifugal-only Mallory distributors are still out there.
They pop up time-to-time on TOS.
Use the grey/grey springs and adjust stops to 12/28.
it's a good solid approach.
I'm running an 050 on a Webered cammed 2056 motor right now, and despite it's reputation as a good type 4 distributor it's not impressing.
Maybe it's that particular distributor, but as for centrifugal-only stock distributors it's pretty much the only one.
There's some German 009s out there that might be re-curved a bit, and I've used them in a pinch,
but,
still,
probably not what what you want to do.
Best at that point to try out the 123.
Never run one myself but they seem a good way to go.
if you could get the right program loaded up in one of those it is supposed to be all that and more.
I'd still likely carry a re-curved/timed 009 with points under the back seat on road trips just in case..
Hope this helps.
Lots of ways to go, and it depends upon what you can find, and how hard you want to work at getting it to behave down low.
A camper with carbs and a cam can be cantankerous...
Speedier than a Fasting Bullet!
Beginners' how-to Type 4 build thread ---> http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145853
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- babysnakes
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Re: which distributor?
Thanks for the reply. Blackline says my carb have a vac port on the drivers side. I have not got them back yet, any day now. I have my eye on a restored 034 SVDA. Not sure if it's a good choice though. You said to try and find a Mallory......hahahahahah.
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Re: which distributor?
I think I am the only one, but try to find a transistor electronic dis from a 2.0 CU engine, very strong spark, no points and it has a vacuum pot.
Otherwise go with a programable one, like a 123 or csp.
Otherwise go with a programable one, like a 123 or csp.
- babysnakes
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Re: which distributor?
Eddie010 do you have any experience with the 123? It's rather pricey but the features seem worth paying an extra $150mmore than a restored German unit. I'll have a great learning curve though. I've been playing with aircooleds since '79, but I'm an old school "I can get it running and keep it running" kind of guy but the super technical stuff is not my forte.
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Re: which distributor?
I would run a standard carburettor type 4 distributor , then play with the max timing at 3000rpm (with the hose off) Thats what I've had for 10 years on a mild 2.3 with 45 Dels , night and day compared to the German 009 it had for the first couple of years . I run 34 total advance , it all depends what the engine likes .
No matter where you go , there you are !
- babysnakes
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Re: which distributor?
So maybe a '73 or so that had dual Solex carbs. Makes sense. Do you have a # for such?
- Clatter
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Re: which distributor?
^^^This^^^ is a very good way to go.
The OG Fairchild box and hall sensor are bulletproof.
From early air-cooled Vanagon.. Love 'em.
Also are found on '79 CA-only buses.
An 034 would be a good choice as well.
I'd pick up one of those 'pulse valves' from Ac.net to help the signal.
Do still bend the stops for more initial - maybe 10 -12' since you have more cam.
Also shoot for up to 8:1 CR.
I'd also try and find some 72-74 heaters and 'tbird' header if possible.
Hopefully your Adrian heads have 42 x 36 valves?
All of it together makes for a very nice motor loaded out on the highway.
Been beating the snot out of something similar for over 15 years now..
Speedier than a Fasting Bullet!
Beginners' how-to Type 4 build thread ---> http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145853
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- babysnakes
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Re: which distributor?
Not sure on valve size, Adrian said it was built as close to stock (other than solid lifters ) as he could get. I appreciate the feed back, but after reading here and on The Samba.....well I think I'll just drop the dime on the original dist. restored by B.Fowler it's a 022905205S with very low miles and a new vac can.