Type 5 is good BUT.......MAIN BEARINGS?????????

Billyisgr8 · Post by **Billyisgr8** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 8:24 am

What are you using for MAIN bearings?????

This was the route I was going to go until I stumbled into trying to find main bearings.

Needless to say I went T4, But still would like to do a T5 but need another source or option for the bearings.

Kevin

Type 5 Joe · Post by **Type 5 Joe** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 9:02 am

Hello,

There are a few outlet for bearings, mostly from europe.

Hopefully a stock will show up here in the states soon :~)

The bearing set for the 1.9 case is basically all Type I 'cept the Thrust.

The thrust is a Type IV W/ 1mm narrower crush on the thrust.

A std Type IV thrust bearing can be used with a 1 mm steel shim.

Unfortunatly Type IV bearing are a real PTA to find in different sizes too.

They are all getting kinda expensive.

- Joe

Type 5 Joe · Post by **Type 5 Joe** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 10:07 am

I just checked with my local supplier.

He said the compuer shows a ton of 1.9 std and 1.9 under (crank) available.

He'll have to check on the over-size line bore sizes.

Says he thinks he has 2.1 bearings too.

I asked him to actually confirm their existance (go pull the fom the shelf).

Good, just in time. :~)

I'll know more on Monday...

- Joe

Type 5 Joe · Post by **Type 5 Joe** » Sat Jan 18, 2003 2:19 pm

Hi Marco,

Did you give C.S.P. a try?

I think they are in Germany, and they advertise all sizes and styles available on their site.

Link: http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2/sh ... 2898217033

If not I can probably set you up.

My E-mail is: [email protected]

- Joe

marcotheturbosteamengine · Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:08 pm

If you can fined some barrings that would be great as in europe there are non left!!!!
2.1 3 peice thrust is what im looking for std size.

thanks ...

Steve C · Post by **Steve C** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 4:18 am

Hi

A friend of mine used Toyota Celica mains in his 1.9 based oxyboxer, he had to still use the small nose cone bearing and he had to align bore the case for the Toyota mains.

Steve C

Post by **Tom Notch** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 7:45 am

T5J, can you supply the spacer? Do you use an oil scraper ring like use to be done on thrust cut T1s?

Tom

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A std Type IV thrust bearing can be used with a 1 mm steel shim.

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Type 5 Joe · Post by **Type 5 Joe** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 7:56 am

I do have a supply of the Type I style oil scraper rings used to "save" a thrust.

Actually I have some customers that insist on this Mod in their regular motors too.

They claim that it helps ditribute the load, the shim has more surface,the steel toughens up the case,...

The Type IV shims aren't as easy, I haven't found something "out of the box" that works.

I have been making these custom for each motor.

Tom, I should be able to supply you with bearings for your project, let me know what size crank you'll be running

Hopefully the bearing will be available in the future, so this won't be an issue.

- Joe

Post by **Tom Notch** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:18 am

I'm running an all T4 main Berg crank. 1st under.

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Type 5 Joe · Post by **Type 5 Joe** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 9:29 am

I'll see what I can do...

You'll need a set of Std line-bore, std. thrust,-.010 crank, 1.9 bearings.

The center bearings you'll need to get from Berg, or one of the other Suppliers...

- Joe

Post by **Tom Notch** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:03 am

What Jerry and I have discussed is line boring it to T4.

Tom

Type 5 Joe · Post by **Type 5 Joe** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 10:45 am

Your case actually *looks* pretty good in the center main area.

Better than at least 50% of the cases I've dealt with.

I would torque it up and check the bores in the tunnel.

If it measures good, I'd just run it 1st time around with a conversion bearing, Wasser Bearings elsewhere, ect...

You'll see a MUCH greater life expectancy due to the QUALITY shuffle pin job you've decided to go with. :~)

If you decide to line-bore it-

You'll have to go .020 over on the Type IV line bore, right off the start.

The thrust will need to be cut when you line bore the others. That's the only way to ensure that they align correctly.

- Joe

pocketrocket · Post by **pocketrocket** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:02 pm

We have about 60 sets of 1.9 & 2.1 Std & a bore brgs. About 4 months ago all of the west coast importers got a batch of these brgs in & they sold out very fast. Last time they had some was about 2 years ago. If anyone is looking for brgs Email me [email protected] We mod the correct brg for the T-1 to T-4 adapter. $40.00 set. We make the thrust shims out of bronze they work great.But are a pita to make. Thanks Rocky

pocketrocket · Post by **pocketrocket** » Sun Jan 19, 2003 11:03 pm

Sorry my email address is [email protected] Thanks Rocky

Pillow · Post by **Pillow** » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:08 am

Let me get this straight 2.1 mains std/std/std size for $40?

Please say yes

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