914 or Type 4 heads

VW based Porsche. In a league of its own.

Moderator: Piledriver

Post Reply
CA. 73 1.7

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by CA. 73 1.7 » Wed Jul 31, 2002 2:18 pm

Does anybody make performance heads that bolt up to a 914 or type 4 and its factory exhaust? As opposed to a Scat(or whatever other manufacturer) Type 1 where you have to use bug type headers.

User avatar
Bleyseng
Posts: 994
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2000 2:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by Bleyseng » Wed Jul 31, 2002 6:39 pm

Porsche did a nice job with the 914 2.0l heads, just try to find a nice set!

------------------
76 914 2.0L

MASSIVE TYPE IV
Posts: 20132
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2000 2:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV » Wed Jul 31, 2002 7:50 pm

The 2.0 heads are weak in the spark plug and exhaust port areas...with mods they work and flow like mad.

Forget the aftermarket castings, Scat and the others are made for power not cooling, VW all the way for me.

------------------
Jake Raby
Raby's Aircooled Technology
www.aircooledtechnology.com

CA. 73 1.7

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by CA. 73 1.7 » Thu Aug 01, 2002 2:27 pm

Yes porsche did do a great job on the 2.0 heads. These heads also have a porsche price tag. I have a 1.7 with 1.8 high compression pistons and i was just curious if there is an aftermarket "TYPE 4" head. I have never come across one. I have seen and read about hundreds of type 1 heads but no type 4. I guess that the aftermarket dosent like our exhaust ports. Ps does anybody know a GOOD person wor head work in Southern California. Huntington Beach, Orange county would be nice?
Thank you all for your comments

User avatar
Dave_Darling
Posts: 2534
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2000 2:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by Dave_Darling » Thu Aug 01, 2002 4:03 pm

The only aftermarket heads I know of are the ones with the Type I exhaust ports. Hopefully that will be changing at some point, but....

As for shops, Otto's is a good shop if you can deal with Otto's personality. Some folks really like the way he is, some don't.

--DD

------------------
1974 VW-Porsche 914 2.0 (Type IV powered!)

Pelican Parts' 914 Tech Geek http://www.pelicanparts.com

CA 1.7 914

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by CA 1.7 914 » Mon Aug 05, 2002 5:39 pm

What about "square port remmele heads"? Crimson axe in the type 4rum mentioned this on a post about chris' new headers. Does anybody know the Remmele address? or have info on these heads?

User avatar
Racer Chris
Posts: 665
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2002 3:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by Racer Chris » Mon Aug 05, 2002 7:49 pm

The Remelle square port replacement heads are imported by John at www.aircooled.net. They come in several performance levels. I have seen a Level 4 head, and it was very, very nice (48x38 valves). I am making stub pipes for these heads to adapt my performance exhaust systems. The heads can now be used on a 914 engine for a high performance application.



------------------
Chris F.

www.tangerineracing.com

Ryan72
Posts: 357
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2002 3:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by Ryan72 » Tue Aug 06, 2002 9:04 pm

If you are concerned about the price of the porsche 2L heads there will be no need to even enquire about the remeles, they are some of the most expensive you can buy. As far as good reputable head work goes in orange county area, A.J. Simms or Jeff Denham are your best bets, some people have long wait times with Jeff heads, I have delt with him and service has always been prompt when I make it clear that I have a deadline, thats just my opinion, Take it or leave it, but both are very local.

JohnConnolly
Posts: 3336
Joined: Thu Apr 13, 2000 2:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by JohnConnolly » Tue Aug 06, 2002 10:08 pm

Ryan,

except there are 2 TYPES of Remmele heads! The "Remmele" heads are the big dawg $3300/pair heads, but the "replacement style" Remmele heads are actually less $ then 2.0L 914 heads, AND flow much better too!

So the heads used on Crimson Axe's engine (for example) are well in the range of "affordable" for the average Joe, while the EXPENSIVE ones may not be.

Like I said in another thread, the L4 Remmele replacement heads basically obsolete expensively reworked 2.0L 914 heads AFAIAC.

John
Aircooled.Net Inc.

Bob Martinez
Posts: 60
Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2001 3:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by Bob Martinez » Wed Aug 07, 2002 3:41 am

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dave_Darling:
<B>
As for shops, Otto's is a good shop if you can deal with Otto's personality. Some folks really like the way he is, some don't.

--DD

</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dave,

No offense towards you, BTDT (no public comment), spend your money wisely, you may try FAT Performance in Orange/Tustin or Mr. Tuttle in L.A...no attitude and they both did excellent work on mine...

Good Luck



[This message has been edited by Bob Martinez (edited 08-07-2002).]

User avatar
Piledriver
Moderator
Posts: 21901
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 3:01 am
Location: Van Alstyne, Texas

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by Piledriver » Sat Aug 10, 2002 10:03 am

The "replacement" Remelles are AMC castings with big valves, etc. The castings look nice, and the intake ports IDs seem noticably bigger than the VW heads as cast, a little porting would probably do wonders, as there is plenty of meat.

The AMC/stock heads are ~$350 ea IIRC (retail/walk in), perhaps they do 914 valve sizes???

Worth asking.
(couldn't find out jack about them online other than here)

AMC also does heads for other "troublesome" motors like for 3000GTs that lose seats or crack from the factory.
(I understand that is their claim to fame)

I just wanted new heads that didn't suck.

The only issue I had (stock 2.0 VW replacements) was having to spend and hour with various tools on the valve covers so they didn't leak.

Jake said something about having the valve cover area redone flat or thinner.

They are available in oval or square exhaust versions.

Do the AMC heads have decent rocker studs?

[This message has been edited by Piledriver (edited 08-10-2002).]

Guest

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by Guest » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:19 pm

Their rocker studs suck..

Redo every machined surface, including registers and the valve cover deck..I have seen them .020 out on my mill, with a freshly indicated head.

------------------
Kathy Jacobs
SEVWC / VW Trends

MASSIVE TYPE IV
Posts: 20132
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2000 2:01 am

914 or Type 4 heads

Post by MASSIVE TYPE IV » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:33 pm

Thats my post above....Kathy logged in from my computer earlier aand I did not notice it...LOL

------------------
Jake Raby
Raby's Aircooled Technology
www.aircooledtechnology.com

Post Reply