2.3 ford into my 914

red914 · Post by **red914** » Sat Oct 12, 2002 9:11 pm

okay the 1.7 liter in my 914 went boom and now reads 0 on 2 cylinders,in checking into rebuilding this motor i am finding quite ridiculous quotes on parts.i am considering using the esslinger engineering kit and installing a 2.3 ford in my car,more power in stock form,increased reliabilty,more power......any insight in this would be appreciated.

Mark the canuck · Post by **Mark the canuck** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 7:08 am

Sorry bud!

An in-line engine sits to high unless you want to hack in a hood scoop!

Ask anyone who has done a convertion it will cost you as much (or more) to put in a different USED engine as it will to rebuild your engine. Used running 1.7L's go for fairly cheap or you can use a VW bus engine, just swap the flywheel/clutch and they bolt in.
Try a couple of different shops and scrap yards in your area first. Mark

Post by **Piledriver** » Sun Oct 13, 2002 5:30 pm

Subaru 2.2.

Same amount of work, just fits.

Mark the canuck · Post by **Mark the canuck** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 6:35 am

Still going to cost ya to do the conversion. You have to hack in a rad, plumb, it etc., etc.

I don't know how much a Subaru engine goes for in Texas, but up here they cost a bit, because all of the aircraft home builders want them.

If it is cheap you want, I don't think you will do better than a good used 1.7L.
A conversion 'at best' will be break even with a rebuild, with a lot more work. (Of course if you have a bud who gives you everything, thats a different story).
Mark

red914 · Post by **red914** » Mon Oct 14, 2002 2:17 pm

OKAY I HAVE A BLOWN 1.7 WIYH A PIECE OF CRAP WEBER PROGRESSIVE ON IT WHICH COULD BARELY GO DOWN A HILL AT A REASONABLE SPEED WHEN RUNNING WELL.MY MAIN QUESTION IS WHICH WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO ACHIEVE 120 TO 130 HORSIES,WHEN YOU WEIGH IN THE NEED TO PURCHASE NEW CARBS(600-700 DOLLARS)REBULID THE 1.7 LITER BUY NEW HEADS ETC,ETC.
OR INSTALL A MOTOR WHICH HAS THE DESIRED POWER STOCK AND PERFORM THE REQUIRED MODS TO GET IT RUNNING I.E. PLUMBING RADIATOR,FABBING NEW MOTOR MOUNTS ETC,I DON'T CARE ABOUT ORIGINALITY, I CARE ABOUT A STRONG RUNNING RELIABLE CAR SINCE THIS IS MY MAIN SOURCE OF TRANSPORTATION.

joe porsche · Post by **joe porsche** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:10 am

......A buddy and I are doing the [what if] argument on a cadilac northstar motor and automatic trans. .....think of the dependability. and we both have seen how well it fits a fiero......so,what if???

Bleyseng · Post by **Bleyseng** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:34 am

buy a used 2.0l ($1000) and add dual carbs if it doesnt have them already ($250) and you will have 100hp.
Sounds like another dream project to hack up a 914 to improve it! After you sawzall it apart and start buying the conversion pieces you will quit. It costs alot of money to swap any other motor in.
Geoff

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76 914 2.1L
www.914Club.com member

Mark the canuck · Post by **Mark the canuck** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 3:15 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bleyseng:
<B>buy a used 2.0l ($1000) and add dual carbs if it doesnt have them already ($250) and you will have 100hp.
Sounds like another dream project to hack up a 914 to improve it! After you sawzall it apart and start buying the conversion pieces you will quit. It costs alot of money to swap any other motor in.
Geoff

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YEP!!!

Bleyseng · Post by **Bleyseng** » Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:17 pm

[email protected] has a 150hp 2.2l motor for sale for $2500 if you want a screamer. Not the best for the street tho, so maybe stick to a good 2.0l. They are probably fast enough for you if you want reliable.
Geoff

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76 914 2.1L
www.914Club.com member

scott thacher · Post by **scott thacher** » Thu Mar 27, 2003 7:17 pm

i am in the process of getting all of the parts to do a suby 2.5 liter swap so far the parts are 2 k

engine with harness etc was 1500 and adapter kit 500

i figure the radator and stuff will be another 500 so i will have 2500 in it and 200 hp ( after simple modes to the motor )

if you want 130 hp the suby 2.2 will cost about 1000 from lkq auto parts ( was redding ) i delt with Gene he was great, their number was 530 221 8162
tell gene, scott sent you

and i plan on putting the radator under a gt engine lid

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scott thacher

75 914 1.8 (4 now)

porsche_914_freak · Post by **porsche_914_freak** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 5:01 pm

most bang for your dollar comes from a rotary 13b conversion.

you can buy a royary out of a junkyard for $150, rebuild it if need be for $500.
www.2rotor.com is the guys with the best pricing on rotary's i have seen.

he can get you a 13b twin turbo with intercooler for under a grand.

Loan Dog · Post by **Loan Dog** » Sat Mar 29, 2003 7:18 pm

I'm sorry red914, but if your 1.7 car couldn't reach a reasonable speed going downhill - when running well - then it wasn't EVER running well! My slightly modified "mini big-bore" (1920) pulls strong to 6500rpm, has EASILY done over 110mph and makes about 110hp with factory D-Jet FI. And I'm very confident I didn't spend anywhere near what you are contemplating by hacking up a 914 to put some Ford junk behind your seat!

miller · Post by **miller** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 12:50 pm

Ford junk eh. Well Im in the process of putting a ford 2.3L turbo in the back of a Ghia and well once im done with the engine its gonna push 300hp easy. I plan to do the whole project for under 4000 with car. I think a 2.3L conversion would be awesome in a 914 and I would fully reccomend the ford 2.3L engine. Take a stroll over to the conversion perversion forum and see some posts about the 2.3 turbo. Its definetly gaining popularity over there. I say go for it but do your research. You gotta have big goals man and be original.

Mark the canuck · Post by **Mark the canuck** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 3:53 pm

IMHO if I was going to do the hack and cut, I would not consider anything but a 350 chevy. All others a waste of time and a 914.

Personaly I will do a T4 and if I ever have the coin a 3.0 or 3.2 Porsche before anything else.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 6:54 pm

Mark the canuck wrote:IMHO if I was going to do the hack and cut, I would not consider anything but a 350 chevy. All others a waste of time and a 914.

Personaly I will do a T4 and if I ever have the coin a 3.0 or 3.2 Porsche before anything else.

Actually there is a guy with a 454 in a ghia. Its mid-mounted and very cool. He is selling it on the samba if you want to check it out. its really well done too. he is pushin 300hp just like I will be.