Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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sharkskinman
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Re: Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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so are we saying that on a stock T4 1.7 engine
that its ok or good to put an extra quart in it
maybe the 914 "Porsche" stick has the provision for the extra quart?
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Re: Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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sharkskinman wrote:so are we saying that on a stock T4 1.7 engine
that its ok or good to put an extra quart in it
maybe the 914 "Porsche" stick has the provision for the extra quart?

That's basically how it looks.
The blocks are identical.
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Re: Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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Lars S wrote:Just discovered the difference in min/max marking on the dipsticks for a VW411LE and a 914/4, both from -72. As you may know the two veichles had almost identical 1,7 80hp D-jetronic engines.

The min on the 914 seems to be the max on the 411, despite this the sticks are identical.
In addition to this the 914/4 had a some extra arrangements in the crankcase to prevent high sea in the oil (at least from some year model).


/Lars S


The lower stick is the 914/4 one.
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Drained and topped up the oil in my 914 today, the difference in volume at the different dipstick marks are are as follows:
Upper 411 mark to lower 914 mark: approx 100ml
Lower 914 mark to upper 914 mark: approx 350ml

That's OK with me but why does the 411 and 914 manuals list the same oil capacity?

/Lars
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Re: Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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Perhaps the guy responsible for marking the 914 dipsticks drove one...
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zero vehicles on jackstands, square gets a fresh 090 and 1911, cabby gets a blower.
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Re: Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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hello all.

can anyone tell me how long the dipstick tube should be on a 2.0L 914 motor. Mine is snapped.

I have a length of hose on there which the previous owner fitted. Its not ideal.

How far above the tin ware should the tube protrude, at least I can get the hose cut until my new tube arrives.

any ideas on how to fit it when it does?

thanks in advance!!!!
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Re: Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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can you try the 914 dipstick in the 411 and vice versa? I would be curious to see where it reads. The 914 reads in a different location (?)
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Re: Dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4

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Yes I can swap the sticks between the two cars and the dipstick location and the dipstick tube length are identical.


/Lars S
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