roller lifters

jim martin · Post by **jim martin** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 8:50 pm

there has been alot of talk but,does anyone know how close the production of a vw dimension roller lifter is?

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 9:16 pm

They are ready for primetime.
I have the first set made by Schubeck. They are really nice!

Jim Gillum Racing · Post by **Jim Gillum Racing** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:09 am

Can you post us some pics, Marty.

ppp · Post by **ppp** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:10 am

those Manley rollers lifters with the sleeves look like a possibility, and nearly half the price of those Schubecks.

jim martin · Post by **jim martin** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:59 am

Marty wrote:They are ready for primetime.
I have the first set made by Schubeck. They are really nice!

what about type 1 case modifications ,inside and outside,sleeving,welding but most imporatant will a sleeved only type 1 case be able to hande side loads placed on it from a agressive cam ramp angles?pictures?thoughts?

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:11 am

Jim, the thing that makes the Schubeck so cool is that they are STOCK VW diameter (thats what this thread was asking about). No sleeving or welding should be required.

They have a special little BB (or pin) that rides in a half round slot that you drill with the supplied fixture. It is actually VERY simple to do with a drill press. In fact if any of the STF guys want to try the rollers, I will let you borrow my drill fixture so you dont have to buy it from Schubeck (with a returnable deposit so I make sure I get it back

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I think these lifters would be better to use in the late model mag cases or an aluminum case that have the thicker lifter bores. This is simply because of the agressive nature of roller cams.

Another HUGE plus is that these things are 1/2 the weight of a stock VW lifter!

I will post some pics here in a little bit.

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:18 am

My TIV drop in versions are being tested as we speak.. They don't require anything to keep them running true in the bores.. No keys, no guide plates- nuttin...

Plus the roller is ceramic

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:23 am

MASSIVE TYPE IV wrote:My TIV drop in versions are being tested as we speak.. They don't require anything to keep them running true in the bores.. No keys, no guide plates- nuttin...

Plus the roller is ceramic

Thats right - Jakes are coming out too!

LOTS of good stuff coming out soon.

I would say that this next year in VW racing will be VERY exciting. The technology will DEFINATELY be going up a notch.

All classes should improve EXCEPT what use to be called Top Eliminator.
Without the Lauffers or Keoki running, there wont be too much big news is the world of unlimited VW powered cars.

jim martin · Post by **jim martin** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 9:35 am

[quote="Marty"]Jim, the thing that makes the Schubeck so cool is that they are STOCK VW diameter (thats what this thread was asking about). No sleeving or welding should be required.

thanks marty! so i'm to understand that these lifters will not wear out the mag case lifter bore .?
a good canadate may be a late model type 1 hydrolic case.thats if you don't want to gane the extra 25 lbs of the aluminum case.and have extra lifter support as well
are you going to run these in a mag case with no mods to the lifter bore area?
thanks again marty!!!

also just looked up the new roller -x lifters on the schubeck website

now i see what you are talking about

57HotrodVW · Post by **57HotrodVW** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:07 am

Marty wrote:...I will post some pics here in a little bit.

Hurry, Marty! Enquiring minds want to know...

--Eric

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:09 am

We are going to run them in one of the Bugpack aluminum cases.

57HotrodVW · Post by **57HotrodVW** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:17 am

jim martin wrote:...also just looked up the new roller -x lifters on the schubeck website...

Thanks to the idea from you, I checked 'em out too:

Schubeck Roller X Lifters
8, #10161, .746 Roller-X Solid Keyed Lifters for VW Type 1 Air-Cooled Alum. Block. Requires Keyway fixture #10261
$480.00

jim martin · Post by **jim martin** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 11:40 am

now we are getting somewhere ,
which cam manufactures are going to produce roller specific cams?

Matt Davis · Post by **Matt Davis** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:01 pm

What's the targeted price? $480?

turbobug56 · Post by **turbobug56** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 12:11 pm

Hmmmmm....... I might try those in the Revmaster 3 Liter