New Start Up 2387

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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by DeathBySnuSnu » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:27 pm

I think the fk10 is somewhere between the 86b and the 86c.
Mine came in big..270 at .050

Yes fuel.
I have 320cc
the itbs have 44mm butterflies. But the throat under is 43mm

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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by andy198712 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:19 am

have you got your req fuel setup in the settings?

mine are gsxr 750 itbs so a bit smaller and if i recall 240cc injectors. i'll dig out a fuel map but it'll be no help to you as your injectors are bigger i think..

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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by DeathBySnuSnu » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:11 am

I understand that it will not be for my engine at all.
I am looking more for the general shape of what an itb on alpha looks like.
Even a screen shot of the 3d view of table would be a great help.

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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by andy198712 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:55 am

Alpha n (TPS) or speed density (map) ?

Yep I'm with you :) let me know and I'll dig one out

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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by DeathBySnuSnu » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:24 pm

My numbers in the cells will be different but the general "shape" would be simular I am guessing.

Yes straight alpha n on itb.

Yes I do have the req fuel and constants set up.
That was a cluster with the dual table set up.
I had read somewhere that the fuel and constants were set to only what is actually on that table.
Dual table, engine split in two banks. One table with its constants for bank 1. The other table with its constants set for bank 2.
Intitial testing seems that even though each table only has two cylinders on it, the constants have to be set to total cylinders and injectors. That is for bank one and bank two.
So anyhow......
Mine is split header, 2 bank, 2 o2, 2 fuel table. Single ignition table.
1 and 3 paired up header, injectors, table.
then 2 and 4 paired up.
Not table switch but simultaneous 2 table.

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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by andy198712 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:05 pm

This dual table stuff sounds fancy!!

photo bucket is being a pain in the ass lately, so here is a map i was running, it wasn't perfect but hey.... bottom left had 4 boxes are the idle
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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by DeathBySnuSnu » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:52 pm

Well mine looks awful big...
But the shape is similar i guess.
I will get to spend more time with it another day.

Thanks.


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Re: New Start Up 2387

Post by Piledriver » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:32 am

Note the max value in those tables is (technically) 255, so as long as you keep it not much over 200, you can get some more low end resolution by reducing the reqfuel and multiplying the VE table the same %.
(You have to leave a little headroom for WUE etc, the total calc value cannot exceed 255, max just under 200 in ve table probably safe)

On MS2e/MS3 max value is an unsigned 16bit number IIRC, which would be ridiculous to actually use, but nothings going to push that and make it barf on it. MS3 has an extra decimal place, so its particularly heavy overkill.
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