Microsquirted 1600 D.P. ---> Now MS3x and ITB's

[Piledriver]

You can use them over the full temp range,(not just for warm up) just turn off the WUE indicator if it bothers you.

do you deal with the accel enrichment circuit with the WUE always on?

Works fine, I'm not adding or pulling large %s and EAE does all the calcs.

Just set a sane cold% adder, like 102% or such, doesn't seem to be an issue regardless.

[MarioVelotta]

You can use them over the full temp range,(not just for warm up) just turn off the WUE indicator if it bothers you.

do you deal with the accel enrichment circuit with the WUE always on?

Works fine, I'm not adding or pulling large %s and EAE does all the calcs.

Just set a sane cold% adder, like 102% or such, doesn't seem to be an issue regardless.

Ugh, I feel I wasted about 4 or 5 hours trying to tame EAE one day. And several more hours other times. That seems like a tough cookie to crack. I also don't drove my car daily, I get maybe a day every week or 2.

[Piledriver]

The only thing I did to "tame" EAE was to turn it on after I had a really good VE table.

All the calculations are based on the VE table, when it's still fubar, so follows EAE...

It's all math based, I suck at math, so I leave the hard stuff to the devs.

Beyond that, I just set the thresholds/balance so it works OK and just doesn't do anything stupid.

Perhaps I'm not expecting too much: It will never be perfect.
Still works better than anything I was able to get with the newer accel shot style setup, which I gave up on.

[MarioVelotta]

The only thing I did to "tame" EAE was to turn it on after I had a really good VE table.

All the calculations are based on the VE table, when it's still fubar, so follows EAE...

It's all math based, I suck at math, so I leave the hard stuff to the devs.

Yup, that's where I started Most of the base setting are for a big V8 and most of it I find is pretty off for our motors. When I first turned it on my car would basically die on throttle input. Got it to work and I know it is a great accel algorithm but to complex for my simple mind I guess.

When the standard table works good enough without having to introduce my forehead to a wall.

[Piledriver]

The only thing I did to "tame" EAE was to turn it on after I had a really good VE table.

All the calculations are based on the VE table, when it's still fubar, so follows EAE...

It's all math based, I suck at math, so I leave the hard stuff to the devs.

Yup, that's where I started Most of the base setting are for a big V8 and most of it I find is pretty off for our motors. When I first turned it on my car would basically die on throttle input. Got it to work and I know it is a great accel algorithm but to complex for my simple mind I guess.

When the standard table works good enough without having to introduce my forehead to a wall.

Some of the devs run smaller motors, not aircooled tho.

I imagine would probably work out of the box with an upstream injector, the V8s don't generally have the injectors ~70mm from the valve stem like we do, probably closer to 120, plus huge port volume/surfaces.

I just played with the thresholds and it worked, I gave up trying to fiddle with the models ~when I looked at them, as I don't have any idea what knob to turn.

My point is that the main "trick" to getting the accels working is not to even have them turned ON until the VE table is nailed down, and even then i was satisfied with "works", not striving for perfection. (That way madness lies)

[petew]

Hey Mario,

Interested to know how you went with plugs and the like for the conversion. Looking at going down this track myself.

[MarioVelotta]

Here is what I built for my car. It's based on the Microsquirt. It has a limited feature set but great for a simple setup.

Most of the connectors are standard like the GM intake air temp and the Coolant temp. As well as the injectors and idle valve. I use Delphi GT150 series for the interconnects when I like to disconnects parts.

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[MarioVelotta]

I was going to post updates. Then I got frustrated that all my pics are to big. Maybe another day.

[Clonebug]

I was going to post updates. Then I got frustrated that all my pics are to big. Maybe another day.

If you use photobucket you can click on the arrow next to your log on name....go to User Settings....... Album....down to Customize upload options..... and click on 800-600 and all your uploads will be uploaded at that size which is pretty well the standard for forum uploads......no more worries about sizes.

[MarioVelotta]

-----Turbo Diversion----

Adding the Turbo - http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 3&t=142199

[MarioVelotta]

Ok, now that you are all up to speed I pulled the turbo off. Decided to try the new ITB's with idf manifolds and my fuel rails.

It started something like this

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I picked up a CB sidewinder header and first had to spend a good 5 hours cleaning up tubing, welds and the collector. It wasn't perfect, but I made the best of it.

After that I had to add all the EGT bungs and (5) 02 bungs. That took some work but boy is it going to be cool having alllll the info

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After all that, I'm now to this point. I was able to get it running and idling today. The tune is completely changed from the single throttle body as you can imagine. Hopefully I'll be able to get some tuning done soon. But it already sounds cool

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[Steve Arndt]

Can you compare idle MAP kpa between the two manifold configs at the same idle speed please? Fluctuation of map and and the actual value? Thanks.

[Chip Birks]

Looks real good dude! I can't wait to see what you can do with all that data!

[petew]

What's it like to drive Mario? Say compared to stock and compared to single TB and a turbo...

[raul arrese]

I
LIKE !!