boost sensitive ignition sistem

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boost sensitive ignition sistem

Post by danyyo » Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:07 am

Hi! Do you guys know is there any posibiliti to build ignition sistem that will retard timing under boost,from stock car parts?

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Post by Clonebug » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:38 pm

danyyo wrote:Hi! Do you guys know is there any posibiliti to build ignition sistem that will retard timing under boost,from stock car parts?
Not from stock parts but using the stock distributor you can add a CB Performance Black Box and get boost timing control.

Probably the most cost effective way to go without going to a MS unit or equivalent.
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Re: boost sensitive ignition sistem

Post by Piledriver » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:43 pm

You can actually get boost retard with a dual vac can distributor, using only the vacuum side (leave the retard side open)
Does not provide the level of control any programmable setup has, or any datalogging of course, I assume the Black box provides that, and a MSExtra setups make for a wonderful datalogger and even supply data for a dashboard.

Does the CB Bl;ack Box have extra inputs to log WBO2 etc?
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Re: boost sensitive ignition sistem

Post by danyyo » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:18 am

I dont need any dataloging, since I going with dual webers,instead of injection system

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Post by madmike » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:00 am

If the 'stock car' has an MSD 6BTM it will :lol: just kidding :wink:

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Re: boost sensitive ignition sistem

Post by Piledriver » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:42 am

danyyo wrote:I dont need any dataloging, since I going with dual webers,instead of injection system
So you aren't interested in recording what your AFR and timing is at various RPM and loads?
I guess if you haven''t used it, its not obvious how useful it is for keeping your engine in one piece...

14point7.com sells several WBO2 units with very extensive datalogging capabilities, no EFI required.
A MS2E setup would be worth having on a race car as a datalogger even if you had to run carbs and a distributor.
Stand alone dataloggers with similar capabilities can cost a lot more.

The programmable ignition and EBC capabilities are "free" if you squint really hard and look at it as only a very capable datalogger. :twisted:
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Re: boost sensitive ignition sistem

Post by danyyo » Sat Nov 26, 2016 2:40 am

Only reason why I want to go to electronic, are points, because thy sell as sh.t, (bosh made in india).Phenolic block wears down in only few thousands kilometers,and thats why I think it is not realible system especialy in turbo aplication.

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