Stupid lgen light question
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Re: Stupid lgen light question
just put a bit of duct tape on the light, problem solved...
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Unless you use glow in the dark duct tape.bajaherbie wrote:just put a bit of duct tape on the light, problem solved...
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I havn't had time to check much lately but I havn't had to charge the batt for two weeks and driving it every day. Two days to work in the dark with lights on. Thanks for all the advise so far. But I am using my deep cycle trolling motor batt.
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When I disconect the blue wire at the alt the light goes out. There is a noticeable, but just barely dimming of the light when the car is running vs not. I cant figure it out! There is no AC from the B+ I get 12 v when the car is running on the D+ and nothing when its not. ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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birddog1148 wrote:When I disconect the blue wire at the alt the light goes out. There is a noticeable, but just barely dimming of the light when the car is running vs not. I cant figure it out! There is no AC from the B+ I get 12 v when the car is running on the D+ and nothing when its not. ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Put your multimeter on DC. If the light is out the alternator will not put out.
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I did that, with the light on there is 12 v when the engine is running, nothing when its not, Disconect the wire and nothing at the alt. with the light on and the wire conected 14 v at the B+Leatherneck wrote:birddog1148 wrote:When I disconect the blue wire at the alt the light goes out. There is a noticeable, but just barely dimming of the light when the car is running vs not. I cant figure it out! There is no AC from the B+ I get 12 v when the car is running on the D+ and nothing when its not. ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Put your multimeter on DC. If the light is out the alternator will not put out.
disconect the wire and test for continuity on the wire to ground nothing.
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I am reaching here but have you checked your ground, engine and alt?
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I thought the generator light got power from the dash and key and grounded through the generator until the generator started producing voltage the 2 voltages canceled each other out turning off the light. so shouldn’t you be able to ground the wire at the generator and the light on the dash should go on that tests that side that would also test the wire to the light and as long as the generator is putting out right or can light the light with the key side grounded. Am I close or way of base
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ajdenette wrote:I thought the generator light got power from the dash and key and grounded through the generator until the generator started producing voltage the 2 voltages canceled each other out turning off the light. so shouldn’t you be able to ground the wire at the generator and the light on the dash should go on that tests that side that would also test the wire to the light and as long as the generator is putting out right or can light the light with the key side grounded. Am I close or way of base
Do you mean alternator?
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The light goes out when I disconect the wire at the alt. It also quits charging when I do that. The car has a generator light but a later externaly regulated alternator.ajdenette wrote:I thought the generator light got power from the dash and key and grounded through the generator until the generator started producing voltage the 2 voltages canceled each other out turning off the light. so shouldn’t you be able to ground the wire at the generator and the light on the dash should go on that tests that side that would also test the wire to the light and as long as the generator is putting out right or can light the light with the key side grounded. Am I close or way of base
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yes I had alternator but in editing it assumed he had a generator on his older bug. If that is the case you need to find your missing keyed 12 volts that the alternator is supposed to cancel out.that will cause the lightto go out and the generator to charge.
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That little tab jumper thing at the bottom of the gauge? there is 12 volts thereajdenette wrote: yes I had alternator but in editing it assumed he had a generator on his older bug. If that is the case you need to find your missing keyed 12 volts that’s the alternator is supposed to cancel out.
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birddog1148 wrote:That little tab jumper thing at the bottom of the gauge? there is 12 volts thereajdenette wrote: yes I had alternator but in editing it assumed he had a generator on his older bug. If that is the case you need to find your missing keyed 12 volts that’s the alternator is supposed to cancel out.
I think he is talking about your switch (key) what post on the switch is the alternator wire going to? Want this to go to the Electrical forum?
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Sure they may help better. The gauge shows it charging when the light is on.Leatherneck wrote:birddog1148 wrote:That little tab jumper thing at the bottom of the gauge? there is 12 volts thereajdenette wrote: yes I had alternator but in editing it assumed he had a generator on his older bug. If that is the case you need to find your missing keyed 12 volts that’s the alternator is supposed to cancel out.
I think he is talking about your switch (key) what post on the switch is the alternator wire going to? Want this to go to the Electrical forum?
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Re: Stupid lgen light question
Alternator light --- Generator light --- >>>> all wire the same... So deep discussion is moot....
1. If lamp has 12 volts at dash panel and you remove lead and ground LAMP lead (at regulator or alternator) lamp should light (key on - engine not running) .
2. If you disconnect lamp lead at alt/gen and lamp goes out that is correct ( engine not running but key on) ...
IF both the above functions happen "IDIOT" lamp circuit is good.... IF lamp does not go out when "system" is charging, the problem is in regulator, either internal ALT regulator for BOSCH AL82 , external ALT regulator as for BOSCH or MOTOROLA AL78 or regulator for GENERATOR...
NOTE there are a lot of ALTERNATORS that need to hit about 3000 rpm to "trip into charge mode" at initial start up... Specially if you are using 'power pulley'... Once this this happens charge lamp indications should be "normal"...
Only other concern may be wrong size (current rating) of IDIOT lamp...
Dale
1. If lamp has 12 volts at dash panel and you remove lead and ground LAMP lead (at regulator or alternator) lamp should light (key on - engine not running) .
2. If you disconnect lamp lead at alt/gen and lamp goes out that is correct ( engine not running but key on) ...
IF both the above functions happen "IDIOT" lamp circuit is good.... IF lamp does not go out when "system" is charging, the problem is in regulator, either internal ALT regulator for BOSCH AL82 , external ALT regulator as for BOSCH or MOTOROLA AL78 or regulator for GENERATOR...
NOTE there are a lot of ALTERNATORS that need to hit about 3000 rpm to "trip into charge mode" at initial start up... Specially if you are using 'power pulley'... Once this this happens charge lamp indications should be "normal"...
Only other concern may be wrong size (current rating) of IDIOT lamp...
Dale
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