What flasher unit

Chip Birks · Post by **Chip Birks** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:43 pm

Well, after building 4 or 5 prototype LED taillight assemblies for my 60 bug, I think I finally got it right. They are nice and bright, perform all correct functions and look pretty dang cool. The only problem that I'm finding is that they just don't blink very fast when the turn signal is activated. I've heard that totally electric(the real name escapes me at the moment) flasher relay will do the job. So the question that I have is, what relay do I buy? The car has been converted to 12v. I put a three prong relay in it to replace the 6v 3 prong one that I took out, but it only uses 2 of the prongs now. So do I purchase a 2 prong style or a 3 prong style when I buy the new one? I'll get picks of the new lights up when I can, I'd like to hear what you think of them. Thanks,
Chip

Speedy Jim · Post by **Speedy Jim** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:22 am

It's a common problem with LED light assemblies.

A few answers commercially available:
http://www.bikerhiway.com/universal-tur ... p-294.html
http://www.ezturnsignalkit.com/TurnSignalFlashers.html
http://www.stu-offroad.com/electrical/led1/led-3.htm

You probably don't want to bother doing a DIY, but JIC:
http://forums.linear1.org/index.php/topic,325.0.html

Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/

Dale M. · Post by **Dale M.** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:35 pm

A TRIDON EL12 (two prong - 12 volt) or a EL13 (3 prong - 12 volt) will flash "lamps" (LED) down to as little as .250ma (1/4 amp) draw.... About equivalent to a side marker light on trailer or "test probe" lamp.... I have successfully used it with single stop/turn 4 inch round LED "trailer" style lamp assemblies using either the 44 led assemblies or with the 23 LED assembly that typically draw around .330 ma (3/10 AMP).... On friends buggy they successfully flash the TECHNO-STALIGA (Cool LEDS) 39 Ford style teardrops in either of their modes...

Best part is they are available most any where for about $12....

http://www.mydune-buggy.com/forum/viewt ... f=17&t=145

Dale

Chip Birks · Post by **Chip Birks** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:31 pm

Well I bought one at Autozone for 10 bucks. It definitely flashes faster. Now I feel like a "ricer" with my super fast flashing signals. I'm guessing the flasher is kind of going into a safe mode, thinking that there is only one light in the circuit, when in reality, both are there, and functioning perfectly. Is there a way to add a little extra load in order to trick it into thinking that there are two incandescent bulbs in the circuit. This is exactly what I was trying to avoid, oh well.

Dale M. · Post by **Dale M.** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:11 pm

I don't think adding load is going to make it slower.... Usually more load actually makes flashers faster.... Usually just getting a flasher that will work with LEDS is getting over main hurdle..... I think about only way to change speed is going to be opening up unit and change size (capacity) of capacitor inside that seems to control the "rate" by how long it takes to charge....

Dale

Chip Birks · Post by **Chip Birks** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:19 pm

Wonderful...Oh well. Thanks for the info.
Chip

Chip Birks · Post by **Chip Birks** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:26 pm

I figured it out! All I had to do was help the switch get out of its burned out bulb, turbo flash mode. I simply cut the trace that sends it into safe mode and shazam! it gave me a nicely paced blinker, even with my LED snowflake tail lights!

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Dale M. · Post by **Dale M.** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:09 pm

Chip Birks wrote:I figured it out! All I had to do was help the switch get out of its burned out bulb, turbo flash mode. I simply cut the trace that sends it into safe mode and shazam! it gave me a nicely paced blinker, even with my LED snowflake tail lights!
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And what brand/model flasher is that?

Dale

VW_Man_87 · Post by **VW_Man_87** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:20 pm

Dale M. wrote:
Chip Birks wrote:I figured it out! All I had to do was help the switch get out of its burned out bulb, turbo flash mode. I simply cut the trace that sends it into safe mode and shazam! it gave me a nicely paced blinker, even with my LED snowflake tail lights!
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And what brand/model flasher is that?

Dale

x2, is that a stock flasher? i would like to get mine out of the super flash mode also, lol....

this is my flasher

Jeremy

Chip Birks · Post by **Chip Birks** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:41 am

Mine is a Blazer EF35 from Autozone. $9.99.

VW_Man_87 · Post by **VW_Man_87** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:49 am

would there be anyway to get a pic of your ic chip the small rectangular piece with 8 pins, i might be able to figure mine out by that

Chip Birks · Post by **Chip Birks** » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:46 am

I don't want to go pull it out, but from the one pic that I have, I can see that the half circle divot in the end of the chip faces the three prong external connector. I shouldn't be too hard to figure it out from there.

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Post by **david58** » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:43 am

Nice work.

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