091 build for turbo bus

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091 build for turbo bus

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Picked up a couple 091 gearboxes to try to build for my turbo bus. Looking for tools.
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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Weddle should have them.. weddleindustries.com. Looks like you need a new mainshaft bearing too! LOL I suggest F.A.G. if you can still get them (they were still available a month or so ago).
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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Henryhoehandle wrote:Weddle should have them.. weddleindustries.com. Looks like you need a new mainshaft bearing too! LOL I suggest F.A.G. if you can still get them (they were still available a month or so ago).
heh heh

I was waiting for someone to point that bearing out.
I hope the pinion teeth aren't damaged from driving on that bearing. They look ok, but I still need to dissassemble and get closer to those teeth.

I found an early input shaft today so I just need an 002 bellhousing now to fit it to my 68 bus.
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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The r&p looks ok to me. Usually ms bearing failure doesn't damage the opposite end of the shaft (pinion). But there's a good chance 3rd/4th gears are damaged. No biggie..stock gears are cheap and you might want to buy different ratios anyway. (they're not cheap, lol). Also, I suggest a new pinion bearing.
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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Where did the balls from the MS bearing go?
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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4th gear replacement and resleeving the housing will most certainly be required ..
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Pablo2 wrote:4th gear replacement and resleeving the housing will most certainly be required ..
What housing would be resleeved?

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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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The intermediate housing .. the bore where that mainshaft bearing resides. Main case usually requires resleeving, too.
Just from what we can see:
Resleeve
New mainshaft brg
New 4th gear
New 4th gear needle brg
Probably much more
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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I ordered a few tools from LongEnterprises so I can dissassemble .
Then I'll post more photos as they come apart.

There are 2 gear boxes. The one that's got the missing ball bearings hopefully will have some usable spare parts at least.
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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Would it be good to change 4th to a .77 and 3rd to a 1.14 for use in a bay bus with a 2276 turbo?
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My van has about 230 hp. My .78 top gear is almost too high, but pretty good. A .80 might have been better. 27.4" tall tire, 4.86 R&P, 5500 lbs.
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My tires are 23.5". I don't know the horsepower yet.But the cam is supposed to be 5500rpm max.
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That's quite a small tire for a van. Yes, you'd do well to install taller gearing.
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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What size bearing race drivers are needed for the removal of bearings in the case housings of the 091 transaxle?
Wanted to pick up a set since I have none.
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Re: 091 build for turbo bus

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finally started dissassembly on my one complete 091.How does this ring & pinion look?
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