Transmission Pics VW/Non-VW used in bugs, vans, etc.

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Transmission Pics VW/Non-VW used in bugs, vans, etc.

Post by Twystd1 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:44 am

I was wondering if it would serve the fellas here to create a sticky that had pics of the various NON VW tranmissions available for Bugs, Vans, Conversions etc. Regular VW transmission pic as well will help identify.

In that way fellas could Identify Porsche 901 tail shifters from side shifters.

915 early and 915 late.

G 50s

Suby

Hewland

And God knows what else we could use......

Pictures are so much better than text when trying to explain what works and why it works... And why it doesn't.

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Post by turboblue » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:33 am

Here is a great link from the Samba on this subject.
It was a sticky..........

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143138
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Critical assembly-order photos?

Post by dangerous » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:54 pm

I like the idea of having photos that show the correct assembly of some of the parts that can be assembled either way.

For example, 3/4 sliders and hubs, 4th gears, energizer springs etc.

Also all those things that fly apart, and you cant remeber how they were...damn 091 shifter springs...

This will be good for first timers when they need help they can log on and find things easily
without wasting too much time on a search(if they have been posted in the past)

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Re: Critical assembly-order photos?

Post by turboblue » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:29 pm

dangerous wrote:I like the idea of having photos that show the correct assembly of some of the parts that can be assembled either way.

For example, 3/4 sliders and hubs, 4th gears, energizer springs etc.

Also all those things that fly apart, and you cant remeber how they were...damn 091 shifter springs...

This will be good for first timers when they need help they can log on and find things easily
without wasting too much time on a search(if they have been posted in the past)
That was easy, next.......... :D

http://www.longenterprises.com/diagram_ ... amlist.htm
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Post by dangerous » Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:04 am

Those diagrams are not detailed enough,
These days photos would be much clearer.

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Post by turboblue » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:46 am

Ok...
The only problem with pictures is with the three typical beetle trannies and three bus trannies typically used in most
applications, that would be a buttload of pictures.

The dial up guys would shoot us.......... :)
Maybe someone can put pics in an imageshack or photobucket account and provide the link.
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Post by david58 » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:11 am

We need Daniel G he has all the Tranny info..........

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Post by Daniel G » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:18 pm

David58bug wrote:We need Daniel G he has all the Tranny info..........
Actually, other people have most of the info, I just learned from it and compiled it into something visual...:lol:

I learned a great deal from Henryhoehandle's web page, especially.

There is another version of the Transmissions for Dummies thread in the offroad forum here that is a little bit more concise than that version. At some point I wanted to add non-vw and aftermarket transaxles that people use, but right now I don't have all the info I need to do that, nor the time right now. Maybe someone else here that knows them can write something up on other options...?


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Post by david58 » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:52 pm

Daniel G wrote:
David58bug wrote:We need Daniel G he has all the Tranny info..........
Actually, other people have most of the info, I just learned from it and compiled it into something visual...:lol:

I learned a great deal from Henryhoehandle's web page, especially.

There is another version of the Transmissions for Dummies thread in the offroad forum here that is a little bit more concise than that version. At some point I wanted to add non-vw and aftermarket transaxles that people use, but right now I don't have all the info I need to do that, nor the time right now. Maybe someone else here that knows them can write something up on other options...?
I searched and it doesn't come up can you post the URL to it?


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Post by Henryhoehandle » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:56 pm

There you go, guys.. I think this is a needed addition to our forum.. Thx for the suggestion.

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Post by Daniel G » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:04 pm

Here is a link to the version here, if you want to check it out....


Transmissions for Dummies

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091 Shift Springs

Post by dangerous » Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:24 am

I have had trouble with this before and could not find the answers on the internet,
so here are some photos.

The 091 shift mechanism has some springs, circlips, and a short "U"-bracket
that centers the shifter and tranny in the 1/2 position.

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I pulled one apart and the springs flew apart and I struggled
to work out where all the parts were supposed to go.

The critical circlip goes between the uppermost spring(on left in photo) and the the short steel "U" that is found in the 091 tranny.

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There are two other circlips at the bottom(far right in photo) that retain the pin in place,
and these go on either side of the main "U" piece that supports the relay shaft.

The other important thing is the spring length/strength.
The stronger/longer one goes in the lower position. (right hand side in photo)
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4th gear Parts Orientation

Post by dangerous » Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:10 am

4th gear can be fitted either way, but the factory put the wide face toward the spring/spacer,

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and the narrow face toward the bearing inner race end of the pinion shaft:

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The slider(engagement sleeve) on 4th gear can also go together either way,
but normally a groove cut into the outer perimeter faces toward 4th gear.

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If there is no groove(some early trannys), you can look for the back-cut step, cut on the little teeth inside the slider.

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These face toward 4th gear.

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Places like Long Enterprises, re machine this reverse tapered tooth to help the gear stay engaged under acceleration AND decceleration.
They also offer this tooth cut for all the teeth on the sliders of 1&2 as well as 3&4.

http://www.longenterprises.com/Images/s ... rgepic.jpg

http://www.longenterprises.com/remachined_sliders.htm

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3rd / 4th Hub orientation.

Post by dangerous » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:33 am

This one is another of those ones.
The 113 style always goes on with the chamfer on the bore towards 3rd,
no probs.

The 002 can go both ways.
But the correct way is with this groove in the OD of the hub is closest to 3rd gear:
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Post by Leatherneck » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:37 am

Outstanding information, great pics, very helpful, thanks guys your doing a heck of a job.

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