Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

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Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by bug&kadettfan510 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:09 pm

Can some please make a list of the best all around turbos for a low compression 1776 built for a aggressive but still street able bug.. quick spooling and capable of 15-20 psi full boost around 4k and 5500 max rpm.. but will still work ok on my1600dp with upgraded rockers and valve springs while I build the low comp 1776 mentioned above... I have up to $1300 to spend on it if need be.. would really appreciate your input on the top 3 for the money.. sorry Im sure this has been asked over and over on here.. I'm just having a hard time finding a straight forward answer..

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by rubenski » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:53 pm

Gt20 or gt25?
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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by madmike » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:24 am

Call Mike at Turbo's Direct in Arizona, he's a VW guy and will hook you up :wink: Sorry I don't have his contact info in front of me :lol:

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by Chip Birks » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:56 am

Talk to clonebug on here. He'll help you out and you'll be able to roll $1200 over into the 1776 build.

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by bug&kadettfan510 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:24 pm

Now that sound good... Im ready to learn clonebug... lay some knowledge on me when u get a chance.. would be mad appreciated..

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by Chip Birks » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:53 pm

bug&kadettfan510 wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:24 pm
Now that sound good... Im ready to learn clonebug... lay some knowledge on me when u get a chance.. would be mad appreciated..
Send him a PM. He's usually very active on here. Might be camping this week

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by bug&kadettfan510 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:56 pm

Chip Birks wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:53 pm
bug&kadettfan510 wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:24 pm
Now that sound good... Im ready to learn clonebug... lay some knowledge on me when u get a chance.. would be mad appreciated..
Send him a PM. He's usually very active on here. Might be camping this week
Thanks man.. so ur new to turbo aswell huh... how's your experience so far?? Hey ur bug is badass.. how did u go about lowering it??

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by Chip Birks » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:20 pm

bug&kadettfan510 wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:56 pm
Thanks man.. so ur new to turbo aswell huh... how's your experience so far?? Hey ur bug is badass.. how did u go about lowering it??
Not new to turbo, been around boosted bugs since i was 6 or 7 years old, 1992 or so. My current car has been on and off the road with a turbo since 09. Thanks for the kind words. For a long time, the car just had a lowered stock beam in it, I also re-indexed the spring plates to bring the rear down. Now it has a 3" narrowed front beam, with dropped spindles. I recently put 29mm torsion bars in the rear, and again, adjusted it for the look i like.

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by Clonebug » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:54 pm

I've been booked pretty solid the last couple weeks with graduation and now next week a 1300 mile round trip for a family camping/fishing trip.
That is on top of 50-60 hr work weeks........ :cry: :cry: :cry:

Reading for the newbies

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 3&t=118207

Lots of good info in here even though it's dated. Has a turbo list if I remember correctly......most of those turbos are going to be hard to find with the high scrap prices a few years ago.

You can also read my build... you might get some idea of what it takes to have a turbo driver.

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 3&t=127936

I only have experience with Subaru turbos and of the 3 different ones I have run I haven't found one I didn't like yet.
Picking a turbo is a personal thing.....it will all depend on what you want......all out high revving powerhouse or nice street mannered midrange powerhouse.
It's pretty tough to have both.
I like turbos on the smaller side which means looking for a compressor and turbine wheel around 1 1/2 inch to 2.0 inch in diameter. Any larger and it will be a lagging dog unless you rev to 7000 rpm.
A RHB5 from the late 80's Subaru GL-10 is a great turbo for a 1600......might be tough to find since it is a pretty old turbo.
A TD04L-13T from a 2002-2008 Forester/WRX is now what I run and is a great turbo for my 1679 but does give full boost at about 3800 rpm.....that is at the high limit and makes you have to drive at a little higher rpm to keep in the insta-boost range.

A Dodge stealth turbo from the Twin turbo car is a tiny little thing which would give excellent insta-boost. I have one on my shelf and might have to try it some day......it is a spare for now.

There might be a few others but as I said.....I stick to Subaru turbos since I know them........ and love them.......$60.00 or less at swap meets or sometimes online.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by bug&kadettfan510 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:59 am

Chip Birks wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:20 pm
bug&kadettfan510 wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:56 pm
Thanks man.. so ur new to turbo aswell huh... how's your experience so far?? Hey ur bug is badass.. how did u go about lowering it??
Not new to turbo, been around boosted bugs since i was 6 or 7 years old, 1992 or so. My current car has been on and off the road with a turbo since 09. Thanks for the kind words. For a long time, the car just had a lowered stock beam in it, I also re-indexed the spring plates to bring the rear down. Now it has a 3" narrowed front beam, with dropped spindles. I recently put 29mm torsion bars in the rear, and again, adjusted it for the look i like.
My apologies I just realized I miss read the post that made me think u were turbo fresh.. good looking bug that's for sure... mine was lower when I got it.. lived in the mountains at the time so i jumped sum teeth and got her sitting right for what I wanted at the time... my dad has always had a baja so that's what got me into them... he actually still has one for way back.. pretty sure it's a
a 61 or 62.. it's usually all jack up on oldschool white rims.. been down for maintenance for a long long time.. trying to talk him into letting me throw motor back in it so we can go smash are bugs around together(plus I wanna check oUT the turbo 1600 vs a aluminum 215).. got almost everything together to do up one of the motors..fingers crossed the internals are stiil good...
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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by bug&kadettfan510 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:12 am

Clonebug wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:54 pm
I've been booked pretty solid the last couple weeks with graduation and now next week a 1300 mile round trip for a family camping/fishing trip.
That is on top of 50-60 hr work weeks........ :cry: :cry: :cry:

Reading for the newbies

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 3&t=118207

Lots of good info in here even though it's dated. Has a turbo list if I remember correctly......most of those turbos are going to be hard to find with the high scrap prices a few years ago.

You can also read my build... you might get some idea of what it takes to have a turbo driver.

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 3&t=127936

I only have experience with Subaru turbos and of the 3 different ones I have run I haven't found one I didn't like yet.
Picking a turbo is a personal thing.....it will all depend on what you want......all out high revving powerhouse or nice street mannered midrange powerhouse.
It's pretty tough to have both.
I like turbos on the smaller side which means looking for a compressor and turbine wheel around 1 1/2 inch to 2.0 inch in diameter. Any larger and it will be a lagging dog unless you rev to 7000 rpm.
A RHB5 from the late 80's Subaru GL-10 is a great turbo for a 1600......might be tough to find since it is a pretty old turbo.
A TD04L-13T from a 2002-2008 Forester/WRX is now what I run and is a great turbo for my 1679 but does give full boost at about 3800 rpm.....that is at the high limit and makes you have to drive at a little higher rpm to keep in the insta-boost range.

A Dodge stealth turbo from the Twin turbo car is a tiny little thing which would give excellent insta-boost. I have one on my shelf and might have to try it some day......it is a spare for now.

There might be a few others but as I said.....I stick to Subaru turbos since I know them........ and love them.......$60.00 or less at swap meets or sometimes online.
Im looking into one of those td04.. guy wants 100.. that to much u think? Thanks for taking the time to help.. really cool of u.. and I hope u rip a bunch of lip on ur fishing trip..mine if I pm u if I have any questions?
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Post by bug&kadettfan510 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:14 am

Lol.. damn wrong pic.. here we go...
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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by rubenski » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:36 am

Is this the turbo you have clone?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/142234850697

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by Clonebug » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:19 am

rubenski wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:36 am
Is this the turbo you have clone?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/142234850697
The numbers are correct for a TD04L-13T......It looks like a real Suby turbo to me.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.

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Re: Please help,best turbo for 1600-1776,quick spool max boost by 5500-6k

Post by Clonebug » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:23 am

bug&kadettfan510 wrote:
Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:12 am
Clonebug wrote:
Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:54 pm
I've been booked pretty solid the last couple weeks with graduation and now next week a 1300 mile round trip for a family camping/fishing trip.
That is on top of 50-60 hr work weeks........ :cry: :cry: :cry:

Reading for the newbies

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 3&t=118207

Lots of good info in here even though it's dated. Has a turbo list if I remember correctly......most of those turbos are going to be hard to find with the high scrap prices a few years ago.

You can also read my build... you might get some idea of what it takes to have a turbo driver.

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 3&t=127936

I only have experience with Subaru turbos and of the 3 different ones I have run I haven't found one I didn't like yet.
Picking a turbo is a personal thing.....it will all depend on what you want......all out high revving powerhouse or nice street mannered midrange powerhouse.
It's pretty tough to have both.
I like turbos on the smaller side which means looking for a compressor and turbine wheel around 1 1/2 inch to 2.0 inch in diameter. Any larger and it will be a lagging dog unless you rev to 7000 rpm.
A RHB5 from the late 80's Subaru GL-10 is a great turbo for a 1600......might be tough to find since it is a pretty old turbo.
A TD04L-13T from a 2002-2008 Forester/WRX is now what I run and is a great turbo for my 1679 but does give full boost at about 3800 rpm.....that is at the high limit and makes you have to drive at a little higher rpm to keep in the insta-boost range.

A Dodge stealth turbo from the Twin turbo car is a tiny little thing which would give excellent insta-boost. I have one on my shelf and might have to try it some day......it is a spare for now.

There might be a few others but as I said.....I stick to Subaru turbos since I know them........ and love them.......$60.00 or less at swap meets or sometimes online.
Im looking into one of those td04.. guy wants 100.. that to much u think? Thanks for taking the time to help.. really cool of u.. and I hope u rip a bunch of lip on ur fishing trip..mine if I pm u if I have any questions?
Check the turbo for play at the shaft...also check the blades for damage.
There might be a crack between the WG flap and turbine hole which is pretty common but I have only seen one that way so far.

Price is dependent on condition........It's your wallet.
I have no issue making grown men cry with low ball offers and most people that are selling at swap meets don't even know what the turbo is from.....Therefore I baffle them with BS and low ball them...... :lol: :wink:

The TD04 is just a cartridge and comes in many flavors....from a TD04-9B to a TD04-19T or other numbers.....

A suby turbo is a TD04L-13T. and has a part number of 144xxxxx-360. The 360 is the suby WRX/Forester number you want.

The MHI turbo comes on many cars so be careful what you buy since some of them are clocked funny and can be hard to change to work on a VW.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.

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