1600 turbo build thread
- buguy
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Re: 1600 turbo build thread
Cool. I'm close to pulling the trigger. Just have to decide on pistons and cam.
- WickedWagens
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I love the cam in my 1915cc. It’s a SL1 Racing r304. I’ve used it in 2 engines and set 7 land speed records with it. It was nice on the street too. Started building boost as soon as you shifted to 2nd gear and pulled hard to 7500. .521 lift and 304 duration.
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
- buguy
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Re: 1600 turbo build thread
I think I'm going to send my case to Paradise Motorsport. I may pick their brains too!
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- woodsbuggy1
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Re: 1600 turbo build thread
Great to hear you are making progress, I am a small cam guy but it all depends how much you like low end torque. The turbo will add at least 500 rpm to your usable power range, remember that Clonebug is running a W100 and making very good power. The best advice that I have heard and would like to relay is "If you like a cam NA, you will love it with boost".
Good Luck
Kenric
Good Luck
Kenric
Good quality is getting harder and harder to find.
- WickedWagens
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Yes, Shag set me up with the cam and 2 turbos for different engines. Everything has been spot on from him.
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
- buguy
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Re: 1600 turbo build thread
Yeah my biggest hurdle with the cam is I have only run stock stuff. So none of them are familiar to me. Seems like .450" - .500" lift and 250° - 260° @ 50 duration is around average.
- WickedWagens
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I don’t even try anymore. I just tell Shag what I am doing and let him send me the cam and lifters.
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
- buguy
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Re: 1600 turbo build thread
That might be the way to go!
- buguy
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Ok I spoke with Mark at CB. He didn't make this much better though. Basically said the Panchito was good and would run the coolest. Mini wedge, wedge, or even super pro (all round port I believe) are a beefier head that would make more power and might handle boost better with the option of more work down the road if I wanted. I got the feeling he was leaning toward the regular wedge heads over the others. He also said they come with a 69cc chamber that would keep my compression down a little. Also recommended a 2292 cam which basically is a FK10. I believe that's what madmike suggested a long time ago too. Try to keep compression around 8 - 8.5:1 with 1.25 rockers.
I have never had much feedback from CB before but Mark seemed super willing to spend some time talking to me today. That was helpful.
I also called and spoke to Jason at Paradise about doing my case work. He said with 10 pounds of boost to just run AA pistons but if I was going to get into the teens or more with boost he would use Cima/Mahle.
I have never had much feedback from CB before but Mark seemed super willing to spend some time talking to me today. That was helpful.
I also called and spoke to Jason at Paradise about doing my case work. He said with 10 pounds of boost to just run AA pistons but if I was going to get into the teens or more with boost he would use Cima/Mahle.
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Guess I better take my AA's out and get some Mahles......
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
- buguy
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Yours is always in the back of my mind. But I wonder if there is any fact to it. I wouldn't mind spending a bit more on pistons if it provides any insurance. This build is getting expensive and I don't want to chop it up with a flopping rod!
And I have a feeling I will never be boosting like you. My compression is just going to end up being too high for those sort numbers.
And I have a feeling I will never be boosting like you. My compression is just going to end up being too high for those sort numbers.
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Intake temp management is the key along with ignition control.
It will be even more important for you once you fire up that expensive stroker....
Save some money for EFI, ignition control and IAT management.......
It will be even more important for you once you fire up that expensive stroker....
Save some money for EFI, ignition control and IAT management.......
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
- buguy
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Oh I have lots of things to save money for! Once it's built it will be running low low boost. Next will be the trans. Then I will move to FI.
I should put a temp sensor in my intake near the head to get some idea where it's at. Just out of curiosity.
I should put a temp sensor in my intake near the head to get some idea where it's at. Just out of curiosity.