Project CFC#1, turbo, back halfed and light (new name, new car page 15)

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bug66
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Project CFC#1, turbo, back halfed and light (new name, new car page 15)

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After one "started" turbo project, this will be built.

I'm a little tired of my 200hp 2110cc IDA engine 8) So Turbo is the only way to go.


The goal must me 10sec 1/4-miles and 400+bhp :)


Longblock:

AS41 Mexico block
78,4mm DPR crank
5,5" Scat H-beam rods
thickwalled 92mm AA cylinders
JE 92mm pistons (B height)
Web 86B on 113LC cam (13,65mm lift w/ 1,4 rockers, 260degrees of duration at 0,05" lift)
1,4 Scat rockers
CB lightweight lifters
CB Miniwedge heads 42/37,5 valves, CB650 springs and titanium retainers
Raceware headstuds
CR around 8,1-1

Auxiliary:

VWSpeedshop SP1 manifolds 52mm bore
VWSpeedshop triggerkit
A1 look a like header, T3 flange
Custom turbo from Tor Øyvind Skinne
2,5-3" intake tubing
As large as I can fit water IC

MAXX ECU
E85






This thread will probably not get updated as much until I'll start to get parts coming in, but if you have any comments or questions, feel free to shout! :)
Last edited by bug66 on Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:40 am, edited 6 times in total.
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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how many psi will you estimate you'll need?
best of luck :)
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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andy198712 wrote:how many psi will you estimate you'll need?
best of luck :)
If we say 130hp NA (turbo just removed)

14,5PSI ~ 260hp
29PSI ~ 390hp



So more than 30 :)


( But I guess 2 bars / 29PSI should be sufficient. )
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Nice! Ready for scc 2016?

Alex


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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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bug66 wrote:
andy198712 wrote:how many psi will you estimate you'll need?
best of luck :)
If we say 130hp NA (turbo just removed)

14,5PSI ~ 260hp
29PSI ~ 390hp



So more than 30 :)


( But I guess 2 bars / 29PSI should be sufficient. )

"some boost required" :P

are you stateside or the right side of the pond?
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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My guess is that he is located "just north of insanity" :)


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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Alexios wrote:My guess is that he is located "just north of insanity" :)


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Oslo, Norway :D
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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andy198712 wrote:
bug66 wrote:
andy198712 wrote:how many psi will you estimate you'll need?
best of luck :)
If we say 130hp NA (turbo just removed)

14,5PSI ~ 260hp
29PSI ~ 390hp



So more than 30 :)


( But I guess 2 bars / 29PSI should be sufficient. )

"some boost required" :P

are you stateside or the right side of the pond?
Right side of the pond yes :D

30psi is not all that much. I'll order 2 sets of cylinders, so I can test if they can handle up to 45PSI
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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I hope to be ready for the 2016 season. Parts will arrive mid may I guess, so I'll have the longblock ready during this summer..
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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bug66 wrote:
andy198712 wrote:
bug66 wrote:
andy198712 wrote:how many psi will you estimate you'll need?
best of luck :)
If we say 130hp NA (turbo just removed)

14,5PSI ~ 260hp
29PSI ~ 390hp





( But I guess 2 bars / 29PSI should be sufficient. )

"some boost required" :P

are you stateside or the right side of the pond?
Right side of the pond yes :D

30psi is not all that much. I'll order 2 sets of cylinders, so I can test if they can handle up to 45PSI
So more than 30 :)
Hesd studs may give ya some trouble at those pressures:Last time I had my bug at the track,I had a waste gate failure resulting in a 40 plus psi situation.it BROKE 4 lower 8mm chrome moly head studs,lifted the 3/4 head & made a REAL mess of the track.
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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The Newf wrote:
bug66 wrote:
andy198712 wrote:
bug66 wrote:
andy198712 wrote:how many psi will you estimate you'll need?
best of luck :)
If we say 130hp NA (turbo just removed)

14,5PSI ~ 260hp
29PSI ~ 390hp





( But I guess 2 bars / 29PSI should be sufficient. )

"some boost required" :P

are you stateside or the right side of the pond?
Right side of the pond yes :D

30psi is not all that much. I'll order 2 sets of cylinders, so I can test if they can handle up to 45PSI
So more than 30 :)
Hesd studs may give ya some trouble at those pressures:Last time I had my bug at the track,I had a waste gate failure resulting in a 40 plus psi situation.it BROKE 4 lower 8mm chrome moly head studs,lifted the 3/4 head & made a REAL mess of the track.
What head studs was that? Raceware should be plenty strong..

But everything can break..

We see 30+PSI all the time here in Europe :)
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Chrome moly from CB.As I said,it was 40 PLUS.My gage stops @40,& it was pegged.
It ws going like stink though...lol
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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The Newf wrote:Chrome moly from CB.As I said,it was 40 PLUS.My gage stops @40,& it was pegged.
It ws going like stink though...lol

I'm not that worried about headstuds really.

Hopefully the cylinders and heads will cope with the pressure.

I'll have boost cut with the ecu, so you could cut ignition over let's say 2,5bars/37psi
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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Re: Yes, I'm building a turbo engine, 2085cc

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Parts on the way from the states via boat.

Need to sort out some bearings for the mains and the rods.

Clevite on the rods and Silverline steel backed I think.


Next up is sorting the case out.
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2165cc on a Borg Warner S257 SXE, DTA S60 on E85.

Boost was created only to make people smile, and make power! 8)

10.626 @ 132mph SCC2016
10.407 @ 134mph SCC2017
10.221 @ 135mph SCC2018
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