Turbo kit in a box !

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Turbo kit in a box !

Post by seabeebuggy » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:44 am

I would like to see all of you join in on this.
The goal is for new people to be able to come and pick out a design and run with it.
Build the kit in mind as a shopping list, Used or new parts. Where to get the used parts if needed IE Subi or Sabb or ???.

After you build the kit you can add a list of addon's like heads and cam.

Remember more people than not don't have a ton of cash.

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by miniman82 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:52 pm

1915T recipe:

T3 turbo from just about any junkyard car (Saab 2.0, Volvo 2.3 (B23FT), Ford 2.3 (T-Bird/XR4TI), ect)
CB turbo header:
Under the apron: http://cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=292
In the package tray (requires cutting/welding): http://cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=308
CB injection hardware: http://cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=320
German intake plenum from FI Beetle
Injectors (pick what works, I used 375cc/min from a TurboFord)
TB: I picked one from a junkyard VW Golf 8-valve
Ignition system from an Escort (EDIS-4): grab the EDIS module+pigtail, crank sensor+pigtail, coil pack+pigtail, and the ignition wires
Megasquirt ECU: I like MS1, pick what suits you. MS1 is the cheapest one, prices and capability go upwards from there.
A decent wideband for tuning, I have used kits and production boxes from a few different places. So far I like Techedge (in the AU) best, but because of the exchange rate it's more economical to buy something from here like PLX.
Fuel pump from a Ford F-150 (go to FLAPS, it's like $60)
Regulator from CB: http://cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=316
Associated fittings/hoses/filters, ect.
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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by Marty » Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:42 pm

Med Budget/Sleeper/Daily Driver/Weekend Racer
Cost for complete turbo system = $3000.00

2275 - was formerly aspirated
Stock block
Demello crank
Steve Timms Stage2 heads
40mm sidedraft
M-Spec header
Custom T3/T4 turbo with carbon seal
Turbosmart 38mm wastegate
Turbosmart E-Boost Street 2 stage electronic boost controller
Holley boost referenced regulator
MSD ignition with boost retard
Snow water injection (only used on the street for pump gas - car goes slower using it with race gas)

This one is a Karman Ghia weighing in at 2200# with driver
Runs 11.30's @122 MPH consistently and has won many bracket races
Runs 15 psi in 1st and second gear and 22 psi in 3rd and 4th gear -car is traction limited

Car runs 7 psi boost on pump gas on the street w/o water injection and runs 9 psi with it

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by Marty » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:45 pm

Vee Dub Nut wrote:Hey Marty, thanks for posting that. It's VERY similar to what I'm building. Do you have any output numbers on the engine? What cam and CR was this with? Thanks!
275hp@19 PSI to the wheels

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by seabeebuggy » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:38 pm

My kit 2006cc Blow through 2195$ or 2600$ with carbs. Add on's another 300$ This is at todays CB pricing. With cheap turbo.

I have:

duel 44 IDF Italian carbs. 400.$ I already had them so the cost is not really in my set up.
4 Turbo e tubes 20$
4 33mm Mod rings 35$
Jetting about 100$ worth of jets. See note on the bottom on jetting.
CB Header for a baja, 300$
CB Ducting 50$
CB hats and seals. 80$
China made turbo 48 hot and 50 cold 230$
CB Waist gate 200$
Cheap e bay Blow off valve 30$ Filter for BO 15$
Fuel pump carter 5150 - 150$ Junk yard buy would be better for cost savings.
Mallory Hyfire VI 350$
Mallory unilite Dizzy 250$?
3 bar map off a GM on e bay 35$
Mallory plug wires to work with set up 50$
Mallory Coil I don't remember the MDL 70$
Oil slump for oil retun (not needed) but good to have 75$?
CB Boost reference regulator 80$
Silicone hose and clamps 30$
fuel hose, Vac hose and fittings 50$


Add on's

Alki injection (home made out of part off e bay) 200$
intercooler off a 280Z 30$ on e bay
Fan for intercooler 30$ and miss parts to make it work like switches and mounts 30$




Jetting. You will most likely need lots of jets to find the right tune.
First buy or rent a wide band tuner. AC.net rents them.. it will save you money in jets and frustration.
John at AC.net will sell you jets and if they are not the ones that work for you he will trade them out for free and shipping.
Also it my be a good idea to buy smaller jets and a drill kit you can drill out one set until you see it get too rich. then you drill out another set to the size that worked best. If you want to buy a bunch of jets to have all you need on hand then go to e bay. There is a guy from Itily and he has the best pricing anywhere.

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by volksnut » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:58 pm

Okay here goes....
My first turbo motor, the motor was n/a to start, lowered compression for turbo
1679 (88x69) thick walls
Scat cast c/w crank (yeah right)
reground Scat c35 cam
Autocraft 1.25 rockers
lightened flywheel
CB 044 heads (stock) 40x35.5
Treuhaft (Mallory) distributor, locked out
Scat buggy header, modified for turo flange
Garrett T03 turbo (Dodge Daytona, used junk year find)
Turbonectics wastegate
Zenith ndiz carb (later a 1 3/4" SU carb)
Holley blue fuel pump with modified boost referenced regulator
This combo was good for 12.30 @ 102 with 10 psi boost
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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by Chip Birks » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:56 am

This could've been a 1600 or so...
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Mexican Intake with fuel rails-$350
A mandrel bend and some mandrel scraps-$25
2 feet of 3" leftover tube-$10
Rajay 3 bolt turbo B40(Properly sized T3 turbo of some sort would be much better)-$300ish
Reworked swapmeet header-$30
Tial wastegate used-$150
Mitsubishi gen 1 DSM BOV-$80
New 55lb/hr injectors-$225
Junkyard Bosch 2 wire idle valve-$10
MS2 ECU unassembled-$266
LC1 wideband setup-$199
Summit efi fuel pump-$79
Mallory 100psi FPR-$100
Wiring and other sensors-$100
Fuel lines and fittings-$100
Trigger wheel, coil and wires-$15
Total is about 2k +/- $100 for turbo AND EFI w/distributerless ignition

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by MarioVelotta » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:11 am

I guess I need to post up and I'm not to good a this sort of thing :?

2276 (82x94)

CB CNC oval ports 42x37 - $900
Stainless valves
CB 1.4 Ratio Rockers
Berg dual springs
Engle V-26 on 114 lobes - Ordered from Berg $120
AA cylinders opened up by DRD - P&C set $250
AA forged pistons
Ceramic coated the tops
Graphite coated the skirts
Total seal #2's
Aircooled.net chromoly head stud kit - $100
12 lb flywheel - reused from an old motor
ID1000 injectors - $500 new
CB fuel injection manifolds and fuel rails - $200

Kennedy stage II pressure plate -$100 new
Daiken super disk - Held good to 200hp, started slipping in the low 12's - $80 new
Black magic sintered iron - Current setup, holding good on the street no track time yet - $100 used[/list]

Garrett T-bird turbine/Turbo buick compressor - $300 used
staggered piston ring seal on the shaft - $30
-3 feed
-10 Drain to sump

Custom header by me - $450 tubing/flanges
Custom intake by me - $100 tubing

Turbosmart 38mm ultragate - $250 new
Greddy BOV - $100 used

Best ET 11.53 at 115mph - 16psi (6/18/2010)
Dynoed at 236hp 245tq - 15psi
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Extra's
Water/Meth kit - $250
PWR Water to Air intercooler - $450 used
Intercooler tank - $175 custom built
Radiator and fan - $120
Boost control Via ECU -Free
Boost solenoid Perrin - $100

I have been buying/selling adding/subtracting doing and redoing for about 4 years on this setup and it is almost where I want it. Probably another year until I am satisfied.
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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by seabeebuggy » Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:56 am

Thanks Mario you have a great set up.


How about some more builds! If you want to know more about a build pm the person. also if you forgot some info on the build please add to it.

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by valveadjuster » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:23 am

MarioVelotta wrote:I guess I need to post up and I'm not to good a this sort of thing :?

2276 (82x94)
CB CNC oval ports 42x37 - $900
  • Stainless valves
  • CB 1.4 Ratio Rockers
  • Berg dual springs
Engle V-26 on 114 lobes - Ordered from Berg $120
AA cylinders opened up by DRD - P&C set $250
AA forged pistons
  • Ceramic coated the tops
  • Graphite coated the skirts
  • Total seal #2's
Aircooled.net chromoly head stud kit - $100
12 lb flywheel - reused from an old motor
ID1000 injectors - $500 new
CB fuel injection manifolds and fuel rails - $200

Kennedy stage II pressure plate -$100 new
  • Daiken super disk - Held good to 200hp, started slipping in the low 12's - $80 new
  • Black magic sintered iron - Current setup, holding good on the street no track time yet - $100 used
Garrett T-bird turbine/Turbo buick compressor - $300 used
  • staggered piston ring seal on the shaft - $30
  • -3 feed
  • -10 Drain to sump
Custom header by me - $450 tubing/flanges
Custom intake by me - $100 tubing

Turbosmart 38mm ultragate - $250 new
Greddy BOV - $100 used

Best ET 11.53 at 115mph - 16psi (6/18/2010)
Dynoed at 236hp 245tq - 15psi
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Extra's

Water/Meth kit - $250
PWR Water to Air intercooler - $450 used
  • Intercooler tank - $175 custom built
  • Radiator and fan - $120
Boost control Via ECU -Free
Boost solenoid Perrin - $100

I have been buying/selling adding/subtracting doing and redoing for about 4 years on this setup and it is almost where I want it. Probably another year until I am satisfied.
I have to ask.. whats the rest of the car look like!?

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by MarioVelotta » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:06 am

valveadjuster wrote:I have to ask.. whats the rest of the car look like!?
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And I just added this for $hits and giggles :)
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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by Vee Dub Nut » Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:41 am

TROGDAR!!!!... Burninating the peasants

LOL

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by Stripped66 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:08 am

Vee Dub Nut wrote:TROGDAR!!!!... Burninating the peasants

LOL
[Strong_Bad] You wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit you in the face! [/Strong_Bad]

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by Vee Dub Nut » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:37 am

Further confirmation that all the cool kids hang out here LOL

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Re: Turbo kit in a box !

Post by MarioVelotta » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:13 pm

Stripped66 wrote:
Vee Dub Nut wrote:TROGDAR!!!!... Burninating the peasants

LOL
[Strong_Bad] You wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit you in the face! [/Strong_Bad]
Vee Dub Nut wrote:Further confirmation that all the cool kids hang out here LOL

I agree :mrgreen:
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