250HP 1600dp

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by WickedWagens » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:33 pm

I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Clonebug » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:03 pm

WickedWagens wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:33 pm
I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
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Oh come on Wicked.........no teasing!!! :lol:

What is your boost target, rpm, fuel supply, hp target and all that other good stuff we need to know?????
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by WickedWagens » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:41 pm

Clonebug wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:03 pm
WickedWagens wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:33 pm
I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
Oh come on Wicked.........no teasing!!! :lol:

What is your boost target, rpm, fuel supply, hp target and all that other good stuff we need to know?????
I'm hoping for around 20 lbs boost, 7000 rpm, and enough HP to go 150+ MPH. I don't know if I'm going to try a DHLA 40 or a 2 barrel holley blow through.
1968 Ghia Land Speed Car
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH 8/2016
G/CGALT 113.131 MPH 9/2016
G/CBGALT 134.606 MPH 8/2017
G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH 8/2017
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH 9/2017

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Clonebug » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:39 pm

20 lbs boost and 7000 rpm with 92 ci. will get you 240 crank hp according to my favorite calculator.
You will need 26.4 lbs/min air or 327 CFM to accomplish that.

That is with the VE down to .89 which is corrected to match my engine output. YMMV

You'll need a good intercooler to keep your IAT's in check depending on how hot it is there...I used a default of 130 degree IAT's to get that flow.

I would think WI might be a good add on to keep your IAT's in check....just carry enough to stay on boost that long.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by petew » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:38 pm

WickedWagens wrote:
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:33 pm
I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
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Nice. Who made that crank up?

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by WickedWagens » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:11 pm

It’s a DPR crank.
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20 lbs boost and 7000 rpm with 92 ci. will get you 240 crank hp according to my favorite calculator.
You will need 26.4 lbs/min air or 327 CFM to accomplish that.
Great. 225-240hp should make my goals for the speeds I want.
1968 Ghia Land Speed Car
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH 8/2016
G/CGALT 113.131 MPH 9/2016
G/CBGALT 134.606 MPH 8/2017
G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH 8/2017
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH 9/2017

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by buguy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:40 am

I don't know how much difference it would make but a 1600 is 97 ci not 92.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Chip Birks » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:48 am

buguy wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:40 am
I don't know how much difference it would make but a 1600 is 97 ci not 92.
66x85.5 isn't a 1600

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by buguy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:20 am

Oh! I just saw 1600 in the title.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by MarioVelotta » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:53 pm

I want to change the title of this post and am looking for input.

Current Name:
250HP 1600dp

Proposed:
250HP+ from a Mouse Motor
250HP+ from 1500cc - 2000cc

Looking for other options and opinions before I make the change :)

2018 will be the year my Mouse gets put together!

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by WickedWagens » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:43 pm

I would say keep it mouse motor. 1641cc limit or something. I started my own build, but I will add highlights in here.
1968 Ghia Land Speed Car
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH 8/2016
G/CGALT 113.131 MPH 9/2016
G/CBGALT 134.606 MPH 8/2017
G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH 8/2017
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH 9/2017

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Chip Birks » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:08 pm

Mighty Mice!

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by buguy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:49 pm

I always think of anything under 1776 as a mouse! Find or sketch up some ideas and I will see about getting some stickers made!

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by Clonebug » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:13 pm

Me me me!!!!
Under 1700 cc's please!!!!!
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.

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Re: 250HP 1600dp

Post by MarioVelotta » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:12 pm

For me, a mouse is under 100ci. 1641 is really close but over. The 11,000 rpm 1776 motor from JPM is considered a Mouse by most.
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2276 Turbo - 92 Octane
11.537 @ 115.74mph - 15psi
1600 S.C. - ?sec @ 10psi (so far) 8)
1600 NA ITB - 18sec :lol:
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