250HP+ 1600DP Mouse Motor
- WickedWagens
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
Oh come on Wicked.........no teasing!!!WickedWagens wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:33 am I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
What is your boost target, rpm, fuel supply, hp target and all that other good stuff we need to know?????
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
- WickedWagens
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
I'm hoping for around 20 lbs boost, 7000 rpm, and enough HP to go 150+ MPH. I don't know if I'm going to try a DHLA 40 or a 2 barrel holley blow through.Clonebug wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:03 amOh come on Wicked.........no teasing!!!WickedWagens wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:33 am I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
What is your boost target, rpm, fuel supply, hp target and all that other good stuff we need to know?????
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
20 lbs boost and 7000 rpm with 92 ci. will get you 240 crank hp according to my favorite calculator.
You will need 26.4 lbs/min air or 327 CFM to accomplish that.
That is with the VE down to .89 which is corrected to match my engine output. YMMV
You'll need a good intercooler to keep your IAT's in check depending on how hot it is there...I used a default of 130 degree IAT's to get that flow.
I would think WI might be a good add on to keep your IAT's in check....just carry enough to stay on boost that long.
You will need 26.4 lbs/min air or 327 CFM to accomplish that.
That is with the VE down to .89 which is corrected to match my engine output. YMMV
You'll need a good intercooler to keep your IAT's in check depending on how hot it is there...I used a default of 130 degree IAT's to get that flow.
I would think WI might be a good add on to keep your IAT's in check....just carry enough to stay on boost that long.
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
- petew
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
Nice. Who made that crank up?WickedWagens wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:33 am I'm just starting mine. 66x85.5 I should have gone 64x87 but the crank was a trade so I can't complain. Turbocharged for land speed racing at the Bonneville salt flats.
- WickedWagens
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
It’s a DPR crank.
Great. 225-240hp should make my goals for the speeds I want.
Off Topic
20 lbs boost and 7000 rpm with 92 ci. will get you 240 crank hp according to my favorite calculator.
You will need 26.4 lbs/min air or 327 CFM to accomplish that.
You will need 26.4 lbs/min air or 327 CFM to accomplish that.
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
- buguy
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
I don't know how much difference it would make but a 1600 is 97 ci not 92.
- Chip Birks
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- buguy
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
Oh! I just saw 1600 in the title.
- MarioVelotta
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
I want to change the title of this post and am looking for input.
Current Name:
250HP 1600dp
Proposed:
250HP+ from a Mouse Motor
250HP+ from 1500cc - 2000cc
Looking for other options and opinions before I make the change
2018 will be the year my Mouse gets put together!
Happy New Year
Current Name:
250HP 1600dp
Proposed:
250HP+ from a Mouse Motor
250HP+ from 1500cc - 2000cc
Looking for other options and opinions before I make the change
2018 will be the year my Mouse gets put together!
Happy New Year
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1600 ITB NA - 18sec
1600 Supercharged - 13psi - 15.40 @ 84.66mph
1600 Turbo - 185hp 250tq!! Going for 200
2276 Turbo - 15psi - 11.537 @ 115.74mph
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1600 ITB NA - 18sec
1600 Supercharged - 13psi - 15.40 @ 84.66mph
1600 Turbo - 185hp 250tq!! Going for 200
2276 Turbo - 15psi - 11.537 @ 115.74mph
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- WickedWagens
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
I would say keep it mouse motor. 1641cc limit or something. I started my own build, but I will add highlights in here.
1968 Karmann Ghia land speed
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
G/CFALT 106.643 MPH G/CGALT 113.131 MPH
G/CBGALT 169.462 MPH G/CBFALT 146.715 MPH
G/CBGC 158.242 MPH H/CBGC 94.334 MPH
H/CPRO 93.383 MPH H/CBFALT 101.282 MPH
H/CBGALT 120.591 MPH
Top Speed 174.2 MPH
- buguy
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
I always think of anything under 1776 as a mouse! Find or sketch up some ideas and I will see about getting some stickers made!
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
Me me me!!!!
Under 1700 cc's please!!!!!
Under 1700 cc's please!!!!!
Stripped66 wrote:The point wasn't to argue air temps with the current world record holder, but to dispel the claim that the K03 is wrapped up at 150 HP. It's not.
- MarioVelotta
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Re: 250HP 1600dp
For me, a mouse is under 100ci. 1641 is really close but over. The 11,000 rpm 1776 motor from JPM is considered a Mouse by most.
The Dub Shop
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1600 ITB NA - 18sec
1600 Supercharged - 13psi - 15.40 @ 84.66mph
1600 Turbo - 185hp 250tq!! Going for 200
2276 Turbo - 15psi - 11.537 @ 115.74mph
Facebook-Tech-Store
[email protected]
1600 ITB NA - 18sec
1600 Supercharged - 13psi - 15.40 @ 84.66mph
1600 Turbo - 185hp 250tq!! Going for 200
2276 Turbo - 15psi - 11.537 @ 115.74mph
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