I have some things to straighten out

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I have some things to straighten out

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The rail is finally out of the trailer, surveying what I need to do
Get all of the known bent parts off and see what I need to build back. Should be fun. Now to figure out what to do and how I want it to end up. Thinking of going a tad longer and less of a rake with the frame front. Cutting everything in front of the windshield and building from there.
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curious to see what the other pictures were and how bad the damage was.
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I will get on the computer, the phone is hard to work off of.
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Used the Come Along to let it out of the trailer, with wheels moving in oposite direction it was interesting getting it out.

I am guessing I hit the tree with the beam, glanced off of that to the wheel then somehow hit the rear trailing arm

Finally found something to jam up the Saginaw Box, it has been a tough one.

Rear end slightly bent, bearing housing and tubes done in

Good thing is shocks are good to go for another round.



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Leather, ever thought about getting rid of the torsion assys' front and rear. Less weight, more travel and more enjoyment. :wink: (got pix from some of the guys who have done it if you want)

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Ol'fogasaurus wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:14 am Leather, ever thought about getting rid of the torsion assys' front and rear. Less weight, more travel and more enjoyment. :wink: (got pix from some of the guys who have done it if you want)

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Lee, don't have any torsions front or rear, will take your pictures though as I will be redoing the front shock hoop/mount.

So far the things I need (that I know of)
Front beam
Tubes from Windshield forward
Front Shock hoops/Mount
Saginaw steering box ( I like em)
Rear trailing arms 3X3

I always seemed to bend tie rods, I know put limits on them but I want to figure out a way to open the area up that they ride in so I can use more of my travel.Thinking about putting the Beam clamps closer together, pro and con? Ideas, pictures etc are appreciated.
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It will be easier to email but if you want them here I can do that also but it would require me to edit the pix which is no problems. Having problems with the internet this AM :evil: (erk!).

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Leatherneck wrote: Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:01 pm
I always seemed to bend tie rods, I know put limits on them but I want to figure out a way to open the area up that they ride in so I can use more of my travel.Thinking about putting the Beam clamps closer together, pro and con? Ideas, pictures etc are appreciated.
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The easy thing for me to do here is to say have Joe text you a pic of his, I like the way MB did the lower chassis of the baja when he was building it. But NO......I have to take a trip down memory lane. I forgot that car had aspirations of being a V8 A-arm car with a ridiculously large set of front A-arms and bulkhead at one point. buy I digress.....

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And surprisingly most of his pics are still in that old thread. So that was fun. I am off to work on my theory/version of tie rod clearance. :wink:
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One of a couple rails.
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Front A-arms.
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Rear suspension pivots.
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Front view.
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Electric power steering.
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A better view of the mounting bracket for the A-arm changeover.

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Glad to see you have found the motivation to get back at it. Good luck with the rebuild!
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Skidmark wrote: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:35 pm Glad to see you have found the motivation to get back at it. Good luck with the rebuild!
Thanks Skid. Well I can't straighten this out so will build a new one. Have to cut the arms off of the right side but shocks are good to go!
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When a tube creases like that the tube is toast.

Too bad you don't live closer as I have an K&L AL beam sitting around drawing dust; a bit wider than stock though.

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Ol'fogasaurus wrote: Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:20 pm When a tube creases like that the tube is toast.

Too bad you don't live closer as I have an K&L AL beam sitting around drawing dust; a bit wider than stock though.

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Was joking about bending the beam back. Thanks for the offer Lee but don’t think the aluminum one would hold up for me. I’m kind of abusive on that front end, well rear end too for that matter.
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I knew that, my reply was meant as joking too. If I remember correctly the AL beam I have was meant to be a stronger replacement for the stock one that was on there. It probably would have been OK if it hadn't been wider than stock. The guy we got the buggy from not only rides in the sand in OR but AZ also.

If you are trying to "doze" a road through rocky or clear tree lined terrain then an IFS probably would not work either. . . unless you have a Bulldozer blade in the front then you would have to worry about the tube frame :wink: :lol: .

What are you going to use for your new front suspension?

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Most of the front end is torn down, getting ready to figure out where to cut it off at. Have ideas, wife gave me a 3k budget so need to figure out which tubing bender to get, arms, Saginaw box, have one rear shock need to take apart and see if it is bent. Things are getting back to normal, spent a bit of time just starring at it last night.
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