Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by dustymojave » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:23 pm

Better to use NAS bolts that are designed for shear loadings. They have longer smooth shanks and short fine threads. Regular hardware store bolts, even grade 8 supers and such are designed for tensile use, NOT for shear loads.
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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by DeMinimis » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:08 pm

Thanks. If I bust one of those US made 3/4 Gr8 bolts, I'd wager I have much bigger concerns. 1/2" bolts used are 12pt (DB, ARP).
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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by Ol'fogasaurus » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:37 pm

:twisted: (giggle !) While Dusty is correct about having a shank on them and not fully treaded, based on the head design they do look pretty stout.

Threads should never be in shear, single or double nor should they be on the load end of something, that is what you washer out for. No more than three washers per end w/o going to spacers as you could be reducing the direct loading by the head or nut if any misalignment by any of the washers happens.

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by DeMinimis » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:44 pm

The threads aren't! Why do you keep saying this? See how long those bolts are? That's because I sized them based on shaft length. I just havent loped off the extra length yet.

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by DeMinimis » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:47 pm

Sorry. I'm tired and pissed off and tired.

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by Ol'fogasaurus » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:17 pm

Sorry!

You aren't the only one that reads this and it may be new to someone else. Over the years I have seen see more than a lot of fasteners not done correctly, I even bought a car where most of the critical bolts were bent in the middle because they used the wrong type and grade of bolt; fully threaded! I've even seen all-thread used on suspension and spring bolts. Imagine 17" rear shackles tied through the rear spring eye using all-thread. the back of the spring was parallel to the road and almost in contact with it too.

I'll try not to do it again! :roll:

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by DeMinimis » Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:23 pm

Copy Lee. Thanks.

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by Ol'fogasaurus » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:55 am

Expect a PM later today :oops:

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by DeMinimis » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:07 am

I did a little buggy therapy yesterday (actually, dialing a-arms really helps keep the mind off other poop). Short of that, my singular focus has been one of my closest friends. Again, sorry I snapped at you. My focus is elsewhere right now. Thanks.
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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by dustymojave » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:14 pm

DeMinimis wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:47 pm
Sorry. I'm tired and pissed off and tired.
I can understand that issue. I've been working on taxes. So much fun it should be outlawed. SERIOUSLY!!! I'm gaining a huge amount of insight into why people go and shoot up crowded places and do suicide bombings and other SH...errr... shtuff... like that.
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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by Vanillagurilla » Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:39 am

Looks up Ave on you tube, he's been testing different bolts lately. Taiwan grade 8, USA grade 8, titanium bolts and such. You might be surprised at the results lol.

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by Ol'fogasaurus » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:53 am

Sorry Mr. D. I've moved it to the newbie area and called it "fasteners" http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic ... 1&t=150479

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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by bajaherbie » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:39 pm

Nice bolts.

I would feed them from the front also, that way when the nut rattles off the bolt would maybe just maybe not fall out from the massive forward motion of yer buggy.

Taxes are done but haven't written the check....

Have you guys seen the nat'l news? Oklahoma teachers are on a walkout and demanding more school funding, 35,000 at the capitol yesterday on day 8.

Our state is broke and no one knows where the money was spent.



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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by dustymojave » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:46 pm

"Our state is broke and no one knows where the money was spent." Now where in the world have I heard THAT before???? :shock:
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Re: Here We Go: Desert Dynamics Build ( Desert Dynamics Sucks )

Post by CentralWAbaja » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:59 am

DeMinimis wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:47 pm
Sorry. I'm tired and pissed off and tired.
You cranky pants...Knock it off. Working on this stuff is supposed to be fun an therapeutic.

Before you get all twisted up....Thanks for working on this thing again...gives me a reason to pop in from time to time.
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