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IAT/MAT (Intak/Manifold Air Temp) Sensor
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:53 am
by kangaboy
Hey all,
I have my manifold off the car right now and figured since I didn't put a temp sensor on, maybe now would be a good time. So I have been doing a bit of reading, and don't know which sensor would be more beneficial. IAT or MAT. Here is a discussion that I was reading up on regarding the IAT and where to put it (before the TB but after an intercooler). I was leaning towards the MAT sensor after the TB, but after reading this, I don't know anymore. I am also assuming both sensors are actually the same, and the only difference in the name is where they are located along the system (before or after the TB).
http://www.miataturbo.net/megasquirt-18 ... ion-30372/
Re: IAT/MAT (Intak/Manifold Air Temp) Sensor
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:06 am
by Chip Birks
I'd put it in the place that measures the temp of the air actually entering the combustion chamber. Meaning post intercooler, post water meth, etc...
Re: IAT/MAT (Intak/Manifold Air Temp) Sensor
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:32 am
by mads b (dk)
It impossible to tune ve map probably without it.... been there
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Re: IAT/MAT (Intak/Manifold Air Temp) Sensor
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:39 am
by kangaboy
Chip Birks wrote:I'd put it in the place that measures the temp of the air actually entering the combustion chamber. Meaning post intercooler, post water meth, etc...
Post throttle body as well? I was gonna put it in my cross pipe on my "T" manifold.
Re: IAT/MAT (Intak/Manifold Air Temp) Sensor
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:50 pm
by Clonebug
I have mine just after the Tee.
Re: IAT/MAT (Intak/Manifold Air Temp) Sensor
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:34 am
by Chip Birks
kangaboy wrote:Chip Birks wrote:I'd put it in the place that measures the temp of the air actually entering the combustion chamber. Meaning post intercooler, post water meth, etc...
Post throttle body as well? I was gonna put it in my cross pipe on my "T" manifold.
Mine is in my plenum, right above the head. Way past the TB.
Re: IAT/MAT (Intak/Manifold Air Temp) Sensor
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:46 pm
by jhoefer
For you to correctly calculate air density, you want the MAT sensor to be reading the exact same air as the MAP sensor. So ideally both should be located in the intake manifold and at roughly the same location.
Putting a MAT sensor before an intercooler is wrong because of the obvious air temp difference between the inlet and outlet of the intercooler. Same for water/meth injectors. Putting the sensor before the throttle isn't really correct either because the pressure drop through it is going to change the air temp in the manifold and screw up the density calculation. Also, the further up the intake tract you get from the throttle allows for more time for the air to heat up and distort the calculation a bit. You can make it work putting it before the throttle obviously, you just end up tuning around the discrepancies.
