CIS westy puullls.

B.Reiff · Post by **B.Reiff** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:23 am

Hi-I'm new to the STF and just wanted to drop a line on my completed 74 bus Cis conversion.First the engine is a 2.0L w/headwork,webcam 73,8-1 comp.and a header coupled to an 091.
This combo worked great with the dual dells but lacked the grunt I WANTED to pull out and whomp on it.
To make a long story short the cis sys. w/european GTI fuel distributor positively makes my 2 ton bus haul.Dead stop starts in 2nd are not out of the question not to mention the instant start ups and the silky smoothness of the powerband.Thanx and long live the VW bus!

MASSIVE TYPE IV · Post by **MASSIVE TYPE IV** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:53 am

Yep, I have been doing this conversion for a while now, even have it on my company bus!

Pillow · Post by **Pillow** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:15 pm

Cool!

I am still getting a motor together to run the CIS with in my '66 Westi, granted T1 or T5 power... The pancake T4 is so much easier to convert. I have had to get lots of Beetle L-Jet parts to make the CIS system for the T1. The main hurdle now is the custom fuel lines.

Thanks,

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Adrian Pillow
'66 VW Westfalia - "Biscuit"
'79 Porsche 911 SC - "Cochese"

regis101 · Post by **regis101** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:25 pm

Now that you've let the cat outta da bag, you have to tells us everything

regis101 · Post by **regis101** » Tue Jan 14, 2003 7:26 pm

Massive, Can the airbox be installed on the drivers side?

B.Reiff · Post by **B.Reiff** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 4:39 am

One thing worth mentioning about my installation is that I didn't plumb the filter,pump,accumulator individually.I simply installed a GTI sump that includes everything as a unit.This saved me space .I also wired in a Ford inertia switch on the power side of the fuel pump/after the power relay that would open the circuit if the bus was impacted.

germansupplyscott · Post by **germansupplyscott** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 7:59 am

b.reiff,

do you have any photos of your installation?

also, can you be more specific about the donor car you took the system from?

scott lyons

B.Reiff · Post by **B.Reiff** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:23 am

SCOTT-sorry I don't have a camera that can download to the stf.If its any help the sump came out of a 86GTI-some other jettas and golfs had them too(pre digifant).fox sumps are smaller,clear plastic housings but the pump and everything else gets hooked up seperate.I mounted mine forward of the rear frame brace (in front of the nosecone)to the rh side of the heater pipe.I welded 3/16" plate in and bolted the sump assy. fast.
Alsoooo-I found that a 1997 1.9 escort intake boot worked perfect when hooked up to the original CIS air boot on the fuel dist,in turn clamped to the shortened version of the CIS hard plastic tube. The raised ribs on the ford part match the vw dist boot so it looks factory. this puts the fuel dist,a/f housing/bracket on the rh side of the engine w/enough clearance to remove the batt. -

Pillow · Post by **Pillow** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 9:31 am

>I also wired in a Ford inertia switch on the power side of the fuel pump/after the power relay that would open the circuit if the bus was impacted.<

VERY interested in some information on this safety device. ANy help is appreciated.

Also I plan on running a oil pressure switch to cutoff the fuel pump if the engine drops below 7PSI. Simple $13 part from Summit Racing.

I hate the idea of the fuel pump still going in an emergency situation.

Thanks,

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Adrian Pillow
'66 VW Westfalia - "Biscuit"
'79 Porsche 911 SC - "Cochese"

B.Reiff · Post by **B.Reiff** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 10:19 am

No doubt a CIs system would make a good 80psi molatov cocktail!-you can find ford inertia switches on any efi f-series(rf kick panel) full size bronco(lh kick panel)escort(LH rear inner fender)etc.The switch is usually good used(can be tested w/dvom)BY TAPPING IT W/A SCREWDRIVER-it should open the circuit without much force-secure mounting is necassary for proper operation.
The thermo time switch I deleted in favor of a pull-on switch under the dash-the cold start valve doesn't care. I feel this gives me more control over cold/hot starts.It might even double as a hidden anti theft feature-who knows?.

B.Reiff · Post by **B.Reiff** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 1:58 pm

The intake off a vanagon or an original l-jet intake will fit the type4.Use the original t-body of the vanagon setup.

The only fuel dist that doesn't have lambda functions is the 76-79 rabbit.you could use later styles and have Gary Miller disable the mixture control.I would recommend Gary for all this stuff-he has this stuff in stock,not to mention the custom inj. lines your gonna need.

germansupplyscott · Post by **germansupplyscott** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 2:09 pm

lambda functions meaning it needs an o2 sensor? my bus is '79 cal spec, so i have all that stuff already, including the o2 sensor

and who is gary miller? sorry, ignorant i guess...

scott lyons

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regis101 · Post by **regis101** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 5:48 pm

Bite your tongue. Try www.sandrail.com/millerfi/

germansupplyscott · Post by **germansupplyscott** » Wed Jan 15, 2003 11:19 pm

b,

thanks for the info.

which fuel distributor are you using? also 86 jetta GTI? if i found a circa '86 golf or jetta GTI the whole works will be on this vehicle?

are you using a bus l-jet plenum, runners and throttle body?

i have been planning this switch for a while, i have many questions...borrow a camera - lol.

scott lyons

germansupplyscott · Post by **germansupplyscott** » Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:14 am

i looked at the miller site. i have been there before as it turns out. good stuff there. most of it is very do-able in your home shop, except perhaps the lines.

the sumps on some of those cars are m***ive, stupidly big i would say. the fuel accumulator on a volvo is about 10 oz, and it is mounted on a plate right beside the main pump. i think this would work well on a bus, and it is very compact. trouble is to find a good CIS volvo at a wrecker here in toronto, it might be hard.

i looked at the 914 conversion and noticed that he was having trouble with hot starting, caused he thought by getting the injectors too hot. they seem to hard mounted into the runners. any CIS car i've worked on has them floating in rubber mounts, and the clamps that hold them in are plastic. now i see why...

this will all be a planning project for the time being, as we are snowbound up here for a few months.

scott lyons