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converting baywindow to wide 5 question.......HELP!!

Post by slammed73hightop » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:37 pm

hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??
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Post by slammed73hightop » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:22 pm

anyone??

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Post by ecdez » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:06 pm

Doubt if the split bus parts will work, but you may want to check parts from a '68-'72 (i think) as they are wide 5

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Post by slammed73hightop » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:33 pm

DOH!.....yeah thanks dude.

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Post by sideshow » Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:40 am

I'm certain that a split bus backing plate will not bolt up to bay trailing arm (reduction boxes verses IRS style).
Now a bay window wide five is common from 1968-1970 but I don't know how they differ from small five bays.
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Post by melville » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:07 am

sideshow wrote:I'm certain that a split bus backing plate will not bolt up to bay trailing arm (reduction boxes verses IRS style).
Now a bay window wide five is common from 1968-1970 but I don't know how they differ from small five bays.
X2 on that, but worst case scenario is that he'd need to get the whole hub carrier to make it go.

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Post by slammed73hightop » Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:39 pm

anyone know if there are small 5 to 5x 114 adapters available? or are they to close to be able to be adapted?thanks for all your answers!

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Post by TexasAirCooler » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:11 am

Your '73 is 5 x 112mm, the wide 5 is 5x205mm.

What are you going to use on the front?
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Post by slammed73hightop » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:39 pm

i dunno,i saw some rims that are 5x114 that i like, I'd like to use them on my bus, but dont know if there are adapters that can make that work? if not, then I'll try and convert my bus to wide5 and go that route.on the front i guess I'll hunt for a beam from a 68 to 72 and install that.

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Post by TexasAirCooler » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:59 am

I can't give you an answer on any adapters, I would think they are out there some where. You do know they will move your wheels out which may cause problems with fenders.

If you go with the wide 5...
For the front check the spindle length on a 68 - '70.
'64 - '79 use the same bearings.
For the rear they also use the same bearings, '64 - '79. You might be able to just swap out the backing plates and axle stub shafts, and drums.

For my 5 cents.... I'd find some wheels that fit the 5x112mm.
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Re: converting baywindow to wide 5 question...

Post by Jadewombat » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:02 pm

slammed73hightop wrote:hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??
I don't mean to be rude but why? There's a ton more options of Mercedes rims and 5x112mm pattern out there to choose from.

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Post by slammed73hightop » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:33 pm

not rude, yeah, I've just found a bunch of rims that would totally work, same bolt pattern! PHEW! for some reason i thought that the bay window bolt pattern was exclusive to bay windows and that they weren't made for anything else? lol, DOH!!

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Post by slammed73hightop » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:34 pm

thanks for all the replies!

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Re: converting baywindow to wide 5 question...

Post by Piledriver » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:01 pm

Jadewombat wrote:
slammed73hightop wrote:hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??
I don't mean to be rude but why? There's a ton more options of Mercedes rims and 5x112mm pattern out there to choose from.
Audi too, just have to open the holes a tad.
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Re: converting baywindow to wide 5 question...

Post by Jadewombat » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:05 pm

Piledriver wrote:
Jadewombat wrote:
slammed73hightop wrote:hi, newbie here, will a wide 5 backing plate from a split window bus bolt up to my 73 camper, or are the bolt patterns different? is there an easier way to convert the rear to wide 5??
I don't mean to be rude but why? There's a ton more options of Mercedes rims and 5x112mm pattern out there to choose from.
Audi too, just have to open the holes a tad.
Yeah, what he said. Late VW too. Google Detroit rims GTI. Those would look sick on a bus, don't know if they would fit as they're so wide...still. A set of decent 5x112mm rims shouldn't be more than $500.

The studs changing over isn't too big a deal, go here:

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